andreessen horowitz, sequoia, benchmark, kleiner? vinod: we tend to be much broader.you are going to advise entrepreneurs, you should have started a company, known how hard and painful it is, how difficult the trade-offs are. it is painful being an entrepreneur. life is not easy. and unless you have empathy for an entrepreneur by having done it yourself, you don't have the right to advise an entrepreneur, in my view. so one rule i had -- in 30 years, i have never ever voted against an entrepreneur. they do not need hypocritical politeness from board members trying to be popular and be their friends and not helping them think through the risks they are going to face and challenge them. and then the same board members want to vote on things as if they know enough to vote. they don't. emily: you also don't go to board meetings if you can help it. vinod: mostly i don't go to board meetings because i cannot stand to listen to other vc's talk about things that i actually think hurt entrepreneurs. emily: what is your advice to board members on how to be a ceo? vinod: first,

andreessen horowitz, sequoia, benchmark, kleiner? vinod: we tend to be much broader.are an enterprise company, then we will do burgers like impossible foods. we will do rocketry like rocket lab. and then we will do hard science. we will invent new medicine. so we do very unusual things. robotics, semiconductor stuff -- we have even done a nuclear project. emily: you believe that most vcs actually hurt companies, not help them. what do you mean by that? vinod: you know, applying traditional business school and business metrics to innovative start ups is the wrong thing. and when people focus on irr's and rates of return -- on those, they actually hurt the company. i don't believe just because you are an investor, you have earned the right to advise an entrepreneur by being a board member. if you are going to advise entrepreneurs, you should have started companies, known how hard and painful it is, how difficult the trade-offs are. it is painful being an entrepreneur. life is not easy. and unless you have empathy for an entrepreneur by having done it yourself, you don't