andrew johnson to other people. so that poses a problem for a biographer right there. we don't have his inner voice, and with jefferson just 18,000 letters that he wrote over the period of his life and, you know, other kinds of documents and other things. and even though he remains an enigma to lots of people, there's still enough there to sort of craft some sense of what he's thinking, what he's feeling and who he was. johnson you are at a disadvantage because we don't really have that to the same extent. and the letters we have that show when he was a young man show lots of misspellings, lots of phonetic spellings of things, and it's difficult to wrap your mind -- i make him it was for me, difficult to wrap my mind around who he really was because we just don't have the kind of record that you would typically have. not leaving aside someone like jefferson but other people who were president, it's just not there. that's a big problem. and because we don't have lots of his letters, and there is not a huge repository

>> certainly did, didn't it, andrew? >>> up next, the impact of china's worst drought in 50 years. >>> welcome back. china is now in the midst of its worst drought in 50 years. beijing and 266 china's 31 provinces are being hit with enforce power rationing. that comes as thousands of farmers worry about their crops. ramy inocencio has the impact of that. >> the most obvious solution here revolves around a dam here. there's of course, the economic angle right here. want to show you a photo of the yangtze river outside of the largest city in china, about 30 million people. the water level in some places along the river is more than 5 meters below normal. of course, a low water level in the river leaves the goods that move along it high and dry. the river is used to transport 1 billion tons of cargo. we talked about the wheat prices jumping to their highest level since 2008. they've since fallen. prices are expected to rise in the second half of the year. if this drought continues, the same goes for rice, corn and cotton. t

andrew? >> absolutely. okay, nina. >>> there is one other big story in asia that people are focusing on this thursday. it's clear the balance of economic power in the region is shifting ever further away from japan. japan's economy shrank by 0.9% quart ir-on-quarter in the first three months of this year. that's the second quarterly contraction in a row. the gdp is down by 3.7% and the march 13th disaster is only partially to blame. we have the full details just ahead. >>> meanwhile, the nikkei has taking a bit of a hit from that economic data this trading day, given the contraction is almost twice what analysts had been forecasting. let's take a look at the broad numbers across this region. starting in japan, the nikkei down by about 0.5%, the hong kong index adding 0.66% to the 0.5% yesterday. reversing the gains of yesterday, back down by about a half. and the australian market, up by 1. %. in currency, new zealand dollar has climbed to its highest value in several days after a cautiously

what happens to andrew breitbart? >> guest: well, i just graduated from college, a place where -- it was like my bar mitzvah i thought i would learn an education about judaism but i left feeling very empty and i learned how to chant. i was open for a spiritual sxeerngs and i didn't get it. i felt the exact same way in college where i was an american studies major. and the stuff that i was reading was incomprehensible. and it was jargon. it was noam chomsky-like to a person who doesn't understand that language. and it was demoralizing. and i graduated less skilled, less motivated and i was a waiter. >> host: you robbed yourself? >> guest: i did. my education was a lack of an education and so i was waiting tables right after graduating college, and i finished my lunch shift and i'd go home -- >> host: and your friends would say why are you doing isn't just you're so much better than this. >> guest: it was embarrassing and humiliating and was it the best thing of having the humiliation and to work and grind it and the pe

what happened to andrew breitbart?> guest: i just graduated from high school, it was like my bar mitzvah and i left feeling very empty because i just learned how to chant. i felt -- i was open for a spiritual experience. i didn't get it. i felt the exact same way in college, where i was an american studies major and the stuff that i was reading was incomprehensible. and it was jargon. it was noam chomsky-like in its lack of comprehension to a person who doesn't understand that language. and it was demoralizing. and i graduated less skilled, less motivated and i was a waiter. >> host: you robbed yourself. >> guest: i did. my education was a lack of an education. and so i was waiting tables right after graduating college and i would finish my lunch -- >> host: and your friends were saying why are you doing this. >> guest: it was embarrassing and humiliating and to work and grind it and the people that i was always looking up to and trying to impress were looking down on me, and i started to pay for my own -- >> host: but

andrew?> it certainly has been a problem for some time now. i think it's been something like nine interest rate rises since march of last year. what's the outlook now for inflation? is it going to get better -- worse before it gets better? >> reporter: andrew, the economists say that, one, inflation is like a double kick in the belly. india's large impoverished population. and the outlook isn't that bright either. just go to it predictions by the central bank and you find that inflation is expected to remain at this level for months to come until measures to control it start to take root. >> you mentioned manufacturing is slowing down because of the higher rest rates. just broadly, what sort of impact is the inflation rate having on business now in india? >> andrew, it's up to the president of the leading business chamber here in india today, i spoke with him, and he believes india he's in to take a priority to build infrastructure. let's listen to what he had to say. >> we do have inflation

what happens to andrew brietbard? >> guest: i just graduated from college, a place where it was like my bar mitzvah. i fought in my bar mitzvah i would learn education about judaism but i left feeling into because i just learned how to chant. so i was open for spiritual experience. i didn't get. i felt the exact same way in college where i was an american studies major and the stuff i was reading was incomprehensible and was jargon, it was noam chomsky like in its lack to a person who doesn't understand that language, and it was demoralizing. and i graduated, less motivated, and i was a waiter -- >> host: you got yourself. >> guest: i did. my education was a lack of an education. so i was waiting tables right after bridge leading college and i finished my lunch shift and i would go home -- >> host: in your friends would say why are you doing this, you are so much better -- >> guest: it was embarrassing, humiliating, the best thing that happened in my life was the humiliation of having to work and the people i was alwa

andrew. >> not much of a day across asia. there's still concerns about the overriding situation in europe, what's going on with the u.s. economy and what's happening in china as well. that's how markets ended down this day. shanghai down 0.9%. there's more and more talk about the stagflationry picture in china. certainly that talk is getting more vocal. we sense the third day of set-offs in shanghai on that one. look at australia, nearly down 1 1%. meanwhile in japan, the country has a deficit in the month of april in the wake of the march 11 earthquake and tsunami. the exports were down 12.5% from a year earlier and rising prices did nothing to help imports. it was significant less than many analysts have been predicting, nina. >>> in asia and also in the european continent. and let's look at how things faired on the united states. stocks there fell. this is on the back of america's recovery and european debt, those issues continuing to weigh on sentiment. the dow jones industrial nasdaq was down 0.20%. the nasdaq down 0.46%

that's probably given a number of these emerging markets, andrew. a little bit of a spring to try and argue the case that they perhaps should have one of the two positions. we should also mention that john lipsky, the acting m.d. of the imf who was the deputy of strauss-kahn will be leaving his position a month after the selection process is complete. june 30th. he said already he's going to be going by august. so, you know, it seems one of those emerging market countries could get that second coveted job. i mean, who knows. let's move things along. >>> upset with their country's economic woes, some spaniards vent and others instead seems are voting their anger and frustration. >>> another volcano erupts in iceland. will it mean more air travel disruptions across europe? we still have that just ahead on "world business today." stay with us. >>> welcome back. you're watching "world business today." in spain, opposition conservatives have cruised to victory in elections as public frustration with high unemployment and severe economic downturn grows. v

at one point during the flight andrew walked past the man, and they made eye contact and andrew says the guy looked like a clean-cut normal joe. in fact, andrew was trading notes with the guy sitting next to the man and they said nothing seemed out of the ordinary. andrew dozed off during the landing and woke up to a big commotion at the front of the plane. at one point passengers were worried there might have been some kind of coordinated attack because someone was shouting, go, go, go. and during the struggle everyone started unbuckled their seatbelts and tried to get a better look but the flight attendant told them to sit back down. after the man was placed in handcuffs, it was very tense on the plane. >> it was definitely very tense. but once we tackled him down and we saw him coming to the back in the handcuffs and we at that moment erupted out into applause. >> reporter: and andrew says they were very lucky to have two experienced law enforcement agents on that plane. and basically what he wants to do now is just to tell them thank you. back to you. >> i bet he does. kit, thank

andrew? >>> the financial stocks have been dragging australia down this week after a downgrade. the winners, though, in this part of the world, hong kong led the way. petrochina was among the companies giving the hang seng a boost. that after the oil producer's parent company boosted its stake in the business. the hang seng up by almost 1%. the nikkei down in early trading after sony dropped pomore than . on an ls of almost 3.2 billion. in the past few minutes, sony announced it start a phased -- services in japan and other agencies on saturday. >>> pejapan's big three automaks are saying the earthquake and tsunami in march slammed the brakes on honda, toyota and nissan's vehicle production. kyung lah joins us now from our tokyo bureau. kyung, how bad was it? >> reporter: well, we knew, andrew, all of these numbers would be bad, throughout the earnings season, all of the ceos and the president said we are hurting, specifically in sales and production because of the tsunami. we are now, though

andrew north in tripoli. just confirming that there have been reports of nato airstrikes and explosions, some 20 explosions reported within a very short space of time. some 30 minutes, at this heavy bombardment on the capital of tripoli itself. and the government spokesman we have been quoting to you from a number of news agencies - - and he said three people have been killed during the latest nato air strikes and he has come out and said that 150 have been wounded. andrew north just told us it is hard to cooperate and that information from the government spokesman. we do not know whether those figures are correct. that is the latest situation on the nato airstrikes in tripoli. more on that to come. now, as we reported earlier, the is cloud from icleaneland affecting flights to and from scotland. it prompted president obama to arrive in the u.k. earlier. arrived in london after spending the day in ireland. earlier, he addressed a cheering crowd of thousands in dublin. >> moneygall, a village of the fewer than

andrew? >> thank you for that. eunice yoon joining us live from beijing. nina. >>> extreme weather events in the united states are ahead on "world business today." parts of the united states are under water, other regions around the world are instead dry and thirsty. >>> and we'll have a meeting with a business chief who's not expected to diversify and take a risk or two in the dicey economy. we'll find out why on this week's edition of "the boss." >>> live on cnn you're watching "world business today." >>> the forecast in the u.s. is already down but some are warning it could get even worse. extremely dry weather across the great plains is forcing farmers to harvest early. government reports say 44% of fields are rated poor or very poor. that's affecting several states. crop kw crop quality is down. a week ago the u.s. department of agriculture forecasted a 25% drop in production but analysts say that na number could sink even further. >>> and, of course, there are still other parts of central and southern u.s. which suffer a drenching. vicksburg, mississ

what happens to andrew? >> guest: well, i just graduated from college, a place like where it was by barmitzfa. i left feeling empty, but i was open for a spiritual experience. i didn't get it. i felt the exact same way in college where i was an american studies major, and the stuff that i was reading was incomprehensive. it was a lack of comprehension to a person who doesn't understand a language, and it was demoralizing. i graduated less skilled, less motivated, and -- >> host: robbedded you of stuff? >> guest: it did. my education was a lack of an education, and so i was waiting tabling d tables after graduating. >> host: your friends said why are you doing this? >> guest: it was embarrassing and the most humiliating rewarding time of my life. the people i wanted to impress looked down upon me, and i paid for my own shoes. >> host: your parents cut you off. >> guest: they did. it was brutal, and i dedicated the book to my father who cut me off and clarence thomas at the same time. both of their guidance in

andrew johnson had the hostility towards african-americans. you think about the story and tell in the book of what it meant to have a person who was so personally hostile to african-americans is not something that was unusual. it was the currency of the time but he in particular had great amounts of animosity towards african-americans and yet he was in charge of figuring out how these were going to be brought into citizenship and he was quite recalcitrant. for he had come into office as a loyalist to the union. once he becomes president it is almost as if he reverts to vis other. the southerner in him comes out-basically believe blacks should have political rights. he did not believe that. he believes america was the white man's government and it would remain a white man's government as long as he had anything to do about it. he comes into office. there were high hopes for him because he talked about punishing traders. when the war was going on he was giving speeches and being very harsh on southerner is saying trees and must be punished. so p

andrew?at is the reaction on the -- i know it's early in paris. but the reaction by normal people in france, if you've been able to talk to people. some politicians are suggesting this could have been a trap for dominick strauss-khan to walk into. is there sympathy for him? >> there is some sympathy. you see people on the street and they express reservations about rushing to judgment on this. dominick strauss-khan has had a reputation of being a lady's man over the years, to say the least. and the imf went back to 2008 and was accused of sexual harassment. he was cleared of that. and they say he had lack of judgment in the way he handled the affair with the young lady. they summarized things when they said it's a surprise. but not all that surprising because there had been these rumors for years. and the socialist party, with some of the writers for the socialist party were saying this morning, if there's any good news in any of this is it's happening now and not three weeks before the electi

andrew?> when will they actually be able to put this behind them, close the reactors and start afresh, if you like? >> there is that six- to nine-month roadmap where they're looking at a cold jut down. they're looking five to eight months when it's going to be -- the immediate crisis is over, we can say there's a coal shutdown at the pleasant. tepco said they're going to close the reactors. as far as getting residents back in their homes, there's no prediction. tepco simply saying they cannot make a prediction. they can't say anything about what it's going to look like going ahead. if you look at the amount of damage and still the ongoing crisis there, it's certainly understa understandable, but this is an electric company that's got its hands full. and looking at the losses today and all the talk about how much the government may or may not have to help is going to be very difficult to not see some sort of outcome where the taxpayers are going to have to pick up part of this tab. >> that's r

elisabeth bumiller and daily beast's andrew. chris: with all the republican drop out and sarah palin talk the g.o. spfplt down to three with a serious chance to boat barack obama. mitt romney. tim pawlenty and john,huntsman. how would each do it? romney would probably be as manager and job creator. here is romney's offense and obama's defense. >> i like president obama. but he doesn't have a clue how jobs are created. >> an economy that was shedding jobs are created. >> an economy that was shedding jobs every month now has seen over two million jobs created in the last 14. chris: former utah governor john huntsenman, his strongest argument is he could get bipartisan cooperation. here is his main theme and obama's defense. >> we have been divided for too long. the yelling, screaming and finger pointing in this country ought to come to an end. >> when it comes to just about everything we have done to strengthen our middle class and rebuild the economy, almost every republican in congress says no. chris: the third with a serious ch

if somebody told me at any point* i would have written a book about andrew johnson i would tell them they were crazy. he is an interesting person but i have tried to avoid them period every construction. it sounds strange for someone who writes about slavery which is a difficult topic but i find it easier to deal with the 18th century and attitudes about race and slavery to deal with reconstructions there is something that is maddening to me. so it was a moment of opportunity. thinking of the 17th and 18th century that have primitive ideas in do know there are things that they don't know, not totally free give them but it is not as irritating to me as when you have photographs. you feel closer to the people of that time period. more than someone of the 17th century art even about the monticellos. >> when i read about the moment of hope, it makes me angry. the moment it makes me angry about what could have happened and what did not happen and how close we were to a period of time when you could have done something to begin the process of racial healing and the process of making americ

andrew? >>> charles, we were talking at the top of the show about the gathering gloom from the volcano as well. that's the one erupting in iceland which formed a massive cloud. the question is how big a threat to air travel is it or is it just a lot of hot air? we find out the latest in just a moment. stay with us. >>> welcome back. you're watching "world business today." >>> air travelers are keeping an eye on that cloud of volcanic ash drifting east from iceland. it prompted dozens of flight cancellations in scotland on tuesday morning. just in the last few hours, now the question is whether the cloud will keep moving and threaten flights further south in england and also continental europe. it's forced one prominent traveler to change his plans. u.s. president barack obama left ireland for great britain a day early on monday night in case the ash led to airport closures. now you may remember it was almost this time last year that an ash cloud lingered over european air space, messing up tr

andrew?ina, for the families of those killed in the crash of air france flight 447 two years ago, answers could at least be on the horizon. investigators say that they have retrieved all the information on flight data recorders recovered two weeks ago, including conversations in the cockpit during that flight. two bodies were also recovered from the fuselage of that downed plane. they're being examined to see if there's enough dna evidence to identify who they were. now, 228 people lost their lives when air france flight plummeted into the atlantic ocean. go back to june 1st, 2009. three hours into that flight from rio de janeiro to paris, the brazilian air force lost radio contact with air france 447 and a short while later, the airline says the plane had crossed through a, quote, thunderous zone with strong turbulence. if you look at -- fast forward here to april of this year, investigators found hundreds of pieces of the plane, including the torn-off tail wing. the flight data recorder wer

she went back home to mama, and there she met andrew jackson. and after that it was clear to both of them that there was no going back. >> and they eloped. but there was some controversy surrounding the legal separation from her first husband. >> well, there, basically, was no legal separation actually. they practiced what the frontiersmen called self-marriage and self-divorce. there weren't any preachers, legal figures. people on the frontier didn't see any reason if you made a mistake to live with that mistake for 50 years of misery. [laughter] so they, she and andrew, ran off to spanish territory back then, presented themselves as mr. and mrs. jackson, went back home. her family hated her first husband, they loved andrew jackson. they all said this is our daughter's husband. and so they simply declared it and made it so. a few years later the husband did get a legal divorce through his connections in the legislature, and then they legally got married. but they were together for four years before that time. >> and, unfortunately, that period c

of the council on foreign relations and joining us from istanbul by phone, journalist and author andrew finkel. >> what we see unfolding in the middle east, particularly as they pertain to turkish relations with libya and turkey's relatns with syria is that the turks are as befuddled and confused as many others when it comes to the ab spring and that their vision of themselves as leaders of the region, of having influence, of playing a constructive role has come up against their interests. >> rose: more about turkey when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: tonight we continue our focus on turkey. last night it was the prime minister. toght we have the foreign minister. we look at the country's foreign policy and the man who's at the center of it, ahmet davutoglu. he is considered the architect of the country's zero problems with neighbors policy. his active diplomacy and deep economic commercial ties makes turkey the leading actor in the region and beyond. it's lifted visa requirements with iran, iraq

he denies attacking a hotel maid in new york city on may 14th. >>> andrew? >> meanwhile, charles, french finance minister is starting a global tour in her bid to succeed strauss-kahn. her campaign to win support will take her to china, india, several african naxs and the middle east. lagarde hopes to overcome potential opposition. >> for whomever does get ahead of the imf, one of their big tasks will be dealing with the long debt crisis. greece very much at the center of that right now. "the financial times" reports european leaders are negotiating a deal for unprecedented outside intervention in greece's economy. that would include international involvement in tax collection and the privatization of state assets in exchange for new bailout loans. we expect the eu and the imf to respond this week to greece's efforts to control its deficit. meanwhile, greek's supposed strict us asterty are getting angrier. for more on the purely economic angle, gupta of ing investment management, what will the ripple effect be if greece defaults? >> the fear for the eu is tha

cross-talk the group of eight i'm joined by andrew hilton in london he is director and joint founder of the center for the study of financial innovation in istanbul we crossed to paul heinbecker he's a former advisor to canadian prime ministers on foreign policy and now a distinguished fellow at the center for international governance innovation and in toronto we have jeff rubin he's a former chief economist for a north american investment bank journalist and author all right folks gentlemen this is cross talk and you can jump in anytime you want and i very much encourage it and i do it andrew first in london this looking at some of the other pictures that are coming out of the g. eight. festival as i think you could call it in france it looks very very impressive but is it just really just a talking shop do they ever really decide anything and in the year two thousand and eleven is the g. eight powerful enough to drive the global agenda a lot of questions a seaside or a couple of days that i think you know if it is only a talking shop talking shops are quite important it's important

andrews of new jersey. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 276, the gentleman from new jersey, mr. andrews, and a member opposed, will each control five minutes. mr. andrews: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the chair: without objection. mr. andrews: one of the things that the administration often faces is whether a certain task is better performed by employees of the department of defense or whether that task is best performed by those working for contractors competing for the right to do that business. there's two things i know about this issue. the first is that it is one we always debate because it's a very difficult one to resolve. and the second is that i don't think either answer is always the right one. i think any strategy that presupposes that having employees do a job isn't right, and a strategy that presupposes having contractors do a job isn't right. i think we've built a bipartisan consensus around the proposition that on a case-by-case basis over time we should col

the former wife of prince andrew was notably absent.heir two daughters, she was absent. a snub she spoke to oprah about. >> how hard was it not to be invited? >> it was so difficult. i wanted to be with my girls, to help get them dressed. and it was hard because that last bride up that aisle was me. >> reporter: ferguson wed prince andrew in a lavish ceremony in westminster abbey, the same church where a young william would be wed. she said she was so depressed not being invited back to the abbey, she fled to the jungles of thailand. it was there, she spent the morning of april 29th, on the phone with her former husband, reminiscing. >> andrew with the girls, we were talking all morning. he said, remember, we had such a good day. our wedding was so perfect. >> reporter: but less than perfect has been ferguson's behavior in recent years. last year, she was caught in a sting, reportedly trying to sell access to prince andrew, to an undercover reporter for nearly $1 million. ferguson said that kind of behavior, understandably, put her on t

andrew fell asleep and was woken up. >> i woke up to a bunch of passengers running down and, you know, tackling a guy up front. >> reporter: passengers were worried there might have been some sort of coordinated attack because you could hear something shouting do, go, go. everybody started unbuckling their seatbelts to get a better look. they were told to sit down. after the handcuffs were on, it was tense. >> we saw them coming back with the handcuffs and at that moment we erupted in applause and second applause when the plane landed. >> reporter: andrew says they were very lucky to have two experienced law enforcement agents on that plane and he wants to tell them, thank you. in redwood city kiet do cbs cbs. >> there were two other incident on flights yesterday. a continental jet from houston to chicago had to stop in st. louis after a passenger tried to open the exit door during the flight. >> i hear a scream from the stewardess and i see her fly across the thing. and so i go running. and i see this guy with his hands on the door, these two guys trying to hold him. the guy was a bu

andrew lamb. andrew, could you please stand up. [applause] lisa lee. [applause] nicky sun.] and the award goes to -- feel like the oscars here -- lisa lee, the publisher of hyphen magazine. the super cool online magazine and website. lisa is a graduate of u.c. berkeley and has degrees in math, communications, theater and performance studies and committed to using her communication skills to help hyphen reach a broader constituency. let's give a warm congratulations to lisa. [applause] >> wow. this is really big. and really heavy. going to break it down. going to put it down before i break it. how are you guys doing? ok. well, just a few people that i would like to thank. first of all, definitely the a.p.a. heritage celebration committee, thank you so much for putting this on. i know it's a volunteer committee. so we definitely understand how that is. an all-volunteer run organization. and also, thank you to the panel of judges for this incredible honor. really, really just surprised and humbled by it. and with that said, i share this award with my fellow nominees, andrew an

we will be joined by publisher and blogger andrew breitbart. host: it has been nearly a week since the killing of osama bin laden. we thought we'd ask you to comment on the week's events and the handling of the killing of osama bin laden. the numbers are up on the screen. you can send us a tweet. twitter.com/cspanwj. or an email. this is the front page of the post. promise kept. we mean what we say. he is on the cover of this and the daily news. we will never forget his visit to ground zero. a noise of the compound raid. only one of the five people shot was armed. the head of the house intelligence committee say that they've revised the story again. mike rogers says white house officials got ahead of themselves in talking of a firefight. that bin laden used one of his wives as a human shief. there was a rifle. waited,yey should have rogers said. the white house did not expliaan wrong.y key elements were here is the "washington t imes." in retrospect, killing the most dangerous man was easy. the hard part is figuring out what to do next. the use

andrew, let's start with you. you wrote this book. it's a brilliant title, because it kind of perfectly encapsulates the mindset of all these guys, doesn't it, on wall street? they simply never imaged that any of them could fail in the way that lehman brothers failed. >> you could call it failure of imagination. the title -- my editor hated the title when we first started the book. i always thought about not the institutions themselves, but people who in their own way thought they were too big to fail, and couldn't accept the reality of sort of what was happening to them. >> you are from a business, which is not dissimilar, i would argue, to wall street. lots of big egos, lots of narcissism, and lots of people who themselves consider themselves too big to fail. >> a sign curve of success and failure that's very much like the world of economics where, you know, you are as good as your last movie, good as your last earnings quarter. one thing i said to curtis when i first started to play this sort of -- the -- that i thought it was a ve

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andrew, thank you. as always for your insights and perspective. the book is out -- >> it's out now. "william & catherine: their story." >> their story. and it is. >>> coming up next, cameron mathison's singing lesson with matthew morrison.

andrews. mr. andrews: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. i thank my friend from virginia for yielding. i'm entirely sympathetic to my friend from california's view that it is probable, maybe even certain that the defense department could function with fewer civilian employees than it does right now. and i think that the secretary of defense shares our conviction because he's frozen the number of civilian employees at f.y. 2010 levels. here's my concern. the gentleman's amendment makes it the law of the land that the correct number of civilian employees in the department of defense five years from now should be 40,000 persons more or less fewer than we have right now. i don't know if that's the right or the wrong number. and i would suggest that none of us know whether that's the right or the wrong number. the proper way to go about this, which the secretary has done is to make an assessment of the needs of the department and the functions that it serves and then to balance those needs bens the three ways you can serve those needs. you can e

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of you in hbo's movie "too big to fail" based on andrew ross sorkin's book which we affectionately called "too big to read." [laughter] >> i have -- i hate to admit this. i have not read the book. >> what? you're in it. >> i've not seen the movie, either. >> you went to the screening of it. >> no, didn't go to the screening. >> what? >> i agreed -- very important distinction. i've got a lot going on in my life. a lot to do. [laughter] >> by agreed to be interviewed by mr. sorkin and mr. amid who wrote a great book that i did read actually called "lords of finance" about a different financial crisis, a much worse one. i agreed to go sit with them and talk about the crisis, lessons looking forward and looking back so i haven't seen the -- >> you have jet black hair in the movie. >> my hair is very gray now as you see. >> that seems very new york. you went to the panel but not to the movie.

andrews, l. lobiondo and mr.smith and look forward to working with them on the rest of the pay parity issue. i yield back. >> thank you. the other gentleman from new jersey, mr. andrews. >> thank you. i want to associate myself with mr. runyan's remarks. this is a problem that should be fixed and i support his efforts to make sure we're doing it here. i thank mr. smith and mr. lobiondo for their efforts. i do want to add from page 232 and 233 from the mark about the homeowners assistance program. i appreciate what mr. warner and yourself have done to help us in this matter. i frankly think we need to do more and i hope that we can find a way to do more. the issue here is that when an active duty family receives a change in its permanent basing order, it has to go. not asking you to gop. they're telling you. and many of these families have encountered a situation because of the problems in the real estate market where the house that they bought near the base they were assigned to is worth less than the mortgage th

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andrew tabler, to you first. what more can you add to what we've reported just now? >> well, i think scale of the military crackdown is clearing growing and your report reflected that. i think the news of shelling-- if confirmed-- is very disturbing because it gets us much closer to a scenario like that in february of 1982 which the ham ma massacre occurred which up to 10,000 or 30,000 people died depending on the estimates. so it's an escalation on behalf of the assad regime to you have? out the protests. >> woodruff: murhaf jouejati, you were talking to people, connected to people in syria, what are you picking up that you can add? >> the report is very accurate that we saw there is a lot more to it. in many instances, the families of the wounded do not dare take them the hospitals because they would be arrested in the hospitals, they would be killed in the hospitals. so you have many people who are wounded, who are at home and literally dying. because forces have gone house to house in operations, whether in dara to arrest young men between the ages of 15 and 48.