and we're also joined by retired colonel andrew bacevich; he is a historian, and the president of they institute. he's written extensively about america's role in the world. thank you both very much for being here. i know you heard the ambassador just there. lisa curtis, to you first, e is clearly saying she feels the united states has abandoned afghanistan, and that is what we are seeing unfold before our eyes. is that your assessment of c test are abandoning the afghans. i think the narrative a couple of weeks ago was that we were continuing our financial assistance, our humanitarian assistance, that we would, you knowstand by the afghans. but now that we're seeing this routing of the afghan government and the taliban taking control of the country much more quickly than anyone expected, there is a accepts that the afghans feel completely abandoned. i don't think anybody expected that taliban would be taking over this quickly. but there are some immediate things that the pus can do. of course, we have to evacuate those u.s. citizens who are in danger, and we're doing that. but e also