experts to discuss growth and its limits tim jackson an economist from the university of sorry and andrew bose of words of the pimco investment. an economy needs to grow or does it to exploit 2 opinions the idea of grace for ever on a finite i just doesn't make sense. the more growth you have the better it is for employment. we might have to be careful about what we wish here in terms of 0 growth. what's more in perspective career path and that sort of world am i going to have to wade into the older people in my company retired before i get a promotion it's going to mean very slow progress in increasing my income there are other real opportunities i would argue in moving towards a different kind of economy and one of those opportunities is in the nature the quality and the quantity of work that could be available to people low employment would be one of the consequences of a deep growth. for a slower economy with more services for example more healthcare more education more social care more jobs that require human input and human labor you could find yourself in a position. labor shortages rat