andrew brandt is director of villanova university's moorhead center for the study of sports law. a former green bay packers executive and the host of a podcast called "the business of sports," which, we should note, is sponsored by draftkings. andrew, when you were helping run the packers in the early 2000s, did you, could you ever imagine that the nfl would be embracing gambling the way it is now? >> john, i could not. there is no area of sports business and sports law that has undergone a sea change like sports betting. we could not get near any kind of bet back in the day, even before i worked for the packers. everything about sports betting in sports, from leagues, from the ncaa, from teams, from commissioners, from owners, taboo. it's taboo. you cannot go near there. and it's mind boggling to me that today, we're playing a super bowl in the mecca of gambling in this country, in las vegas. it just shows you how things have changed over the last few years, something i would have never thought while working for the packers in the early 2000s. john: what's the brief version of h