joining me are andrew brennan, a 2019 graduate of north carolina who was a party of the case involvinghe university. angie gabo, and michael eric dyson, professor of african american and diaspory studies and co-author of unequal. i want to start with you, angie. we were having the harvard house conversation, when i was at harvard, there were a lot of legacies. a lot of people who didn't get in because they had good grades. they had mommy and grand daddy's name on a building. they can still get in. their affirmative action seems quite in place. what do you make of that. >> i totally agree. that's still true today. there's also, you know, we have seen it in other cases like the back door, the side door, other ways to get into harvard. but they just struck it down just for black students and brown students on campus. to be able to have specific access due to, like, disadvantages in specific circumstances. >> when i was there, one of the other experiences i had is the so-called affirmative action kids were some of the most brilliant i ever met. ketanji brown jackson was there when i was he

andrew weizmann. also today, a conversation with congressman dan goldman. he knows a thing or two about making the case against donald trump. later, former cia director, john brennan joins us to discuss just how dangerous it is to handle our nation's most sensitive secrets like this. so we talk about a lot of issues on the show every week. we will definitely continue to do that. today, we have one focus. making sure you have a better understanding that the end of the show of the federal indictment of donald trump. the former president was back on the campaign trail yesterday attacking the special counsel and trying to muddy the waters as much as possible. the rhetoric from his supporters is getting increasingly violent, and his arraignment tuesday in miami could be a circus. so it's super important that everybody understands the facets of this case as widely as possible. the indictment unsealed on friday stems from trump's efforts to retain hundreds of documents at mar-a-lago after leaving the white house. contrary to most sleep inducing legal documents, this one is actually pretty retain. the indictment includes text messages, wildly hypocritical quotes from trum

going to say, i would defer to our friend across the room, andrew weissmann, but it sounds like, for my conversation we had last week with john brennanven more classified that aren't even mentioned in that. and that the government may actually be prepared to divulge what those documents were because they are named in the indictment. so to your point, rachel we may have much more damning and specific information as this case goes on. >> i think the most interesting person then becomes chris christie. whatever his fealty to trump was before and he was a sack up to trump for quite some time, he was the most plainspoken republican in the race. even if he pulls a 2%, it doesn't matter as long as, to the point that staff made, those donors, those wall street wealthy donors backing his campaign because they want him too, as stephanie ruhle says, -- to his -- >> trump -- >> -- >> keep the message -- >> and he damaged rubio. a lot of people who don't like rubio thinks his greatest service in the primary was to take out marco rubio. >> that's right. >> we've got more of our special coverage of donald trump's arraignment ahead. stay with us. i

andrew mccabe under oath. they've had james comey saying amnesia. they'v245 times under oath. they've had james clapper lieoa under oath. they've had john brennan, the cia line lie under lie. they've had christopher wray almost risk going to jaioal to stonewall an investigation. they had robert mueller failing . he didn't know anything about the steele dossier or so i guess they're just exasperated. they think, what will these people and the irs, the doj, the cia, what are they not capable of? and they're scared, wh. i don't think you can have a constitutional system when the people hav are scared of the government. and that's that's what i'm really worried aboutthat isu because i think all of us, if did testify for congress as one journalist, did you close home in the irs as a note on the story is no? and this is not american, this is not america. and these people have weaponized and they're destroying piece by piece bid th right. did something that they didn't own. this came from our 232 years ago, and it wasn't there to destroy. and they hijacke td thisroy this and they've they're trying to destroy this country and i think the citizens are.

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