andrew charlton is the managing director of the consulting business aviation advocacy, and you are joining us from clooney and france. it's extremely rare to hear of somebody dying as a result of turbulence. what do we need to know at this very early stage? well, thank you, cheryl i, it is extreme. it is extremely rare. one hays of turbulent someone hazy occasionally of injuries but, but these most, most unusual i, i'm struggling to remember what i mean in my 35 years and i'd be ashen. is the thing we need to know even at this early stage, the thing we'll need to know is the end of this investigation. the thing we must never forget is way your psyche built through your sites to build up even when you're just sitting on the airplane. we don't know anything yet, although there are reports that the a craft was coming into time to storms. that's always a big thing that they could well be turbulence. it's a tropical area. so i found the storms of quite no. and we were also experiencing the, one of the great causes of turbulence, which is a changing a temperature, which could be caused by the, t