andrew forrest, welcome to hardtalk. good to be back, stephen, thank you.t to have you here. now, look, people around the world are going to look at you, a man who has made billions out of mining for metals, generating many tens of millions of tonnes of carbon dioxide in the process. they are going to struggle to see you as a green crusader. well, i'd like to reach out to them and say if people like me don't turn green, then we all have a serious problem. it's not those people who don't really produce many emissions, you know. if they turn green, well, let's all give them a slow clap, stephen. it's people who are the problem, who are the heavy emitters — which community relies on. we all rely on them, but we are also relying on them to go green, and ifeel i can lead from the front. i'll have the arrows in the back, stephen, you know that, but i feel i should do this. but you partly get the arrows in the back cos — and we're going to discuss it in detail — as you put forward your proposals for a greenerfuture, you still make a fortune every year out of minin

my guest is andrew forrest, an australian billionaire

that project is being backed by an australian billionaire, andrew forrest, who is here because he made he now wants to turn his company into a green hydrogen energy exporter. so there are a lot of people in australia who are seeing the opportunities, knowing they can not make australia poorer along the way. that question of opportunities, but also who pays for the transition, is a huge one for the business community, isn't it? yeah, i mean, one where the other every citizen i in the world will pay for this. either pay through our taxes or we pay for it the amountl we pay for the products - and services that we consume. the cost of this is going to be astronomical. - that is the problem with the fossil fuel stock, it becomes more expensive to sustain where we are? there are some partsl which are an easy win. the uk we have had a hugej success with offshore wind, a big part of- the energy mix now. even the prime minister used to joke about wind power as a journalist, now he's a big champion. a lot of people thought - it was impossible to get below £100 per megawatt hour but now it is £40

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