joining us now to talk about the issues, andrew freedman, founder and president of the non-partisan think tank. thank you for joining us. >> hi, susie. >> this is a topic people have been debating quite a while now. what do you think the chances are that we get a reform in the u.s. tax code? >> well, you stated it right. both democrats and republicans say they want tax reform. one of the things we have in washington is the tax stuff, complicated stuff hard to get done. you have to kind of separate the individual side and corporate side and try to analyze each to see what the likelihood is. >> i am glad you brought that up because when people talk about tax reform it could mean corporate tax reform or personal taxes, you know, where do you see this whole debate playing out. which category or all of them? >> sure, well, if you look at the individual side you have to understand what you're doing is dropping the tax rates. that means you have to recoup the revenue you lost by driving the tax rate so the government doesn't end up worse off, so you have to do things like cur tailing the mortgag