with me is mayor congressman andrew harris who is on the house appropriations committee and a membere electropulse congress. feinstein and reid and others are now pushing for stronger security standards of power plants, saying the attack was a wake-up call. as if they didn't already know based upon legislation that you've been involved in, the work that you've done, the grid act, the sipa act, the shield act. as if this is the first time they're hearing about it. can you please explain to the american people why these politicians decide to come out when we hear about it and be against it but won't pass the stuff in washington? >> well, judge, i don't know. we really have to get on this and get on it as soon as possible. we have the shield act before the house now. it's already been filed. we can easily amend that act to include terrorist attacks or physical attacks like this attack and protect our grid. >> all right. and when you talk about the shield act, you're talking about its hr bill 2147? >> yeah, it's the act that would protect against electromagnetic pulse, but what the attac

andrew johnson has been quite different. what makes our reconstruction that harder than 1945 in japan or 1945 in germany and the answer is harry truman digs his heels in and president johnson is like we will just go about the business. so if there is a billing in the book johnson is it. he's a terrible president. >> something you said kind of peaked my interest you mentioned briefly that there was some interest in the policy. can you fill that out a little bit and what is the means or the structure of that plan. >> there's a lot of areas where early on during the war they simply abando abandoned the coaf south carolina and georgia and that is wher where that the u.ss land. they are taken over the coast so there are giant pockets where there are areas where the soldiers arrived and they've moved into the plantation big house and divide the land up and a number of generals who are not progressives do they need an entourage of black refugees and they need to keep them back on the plantations so they passed a bill created in that era and in the language of the law they could apply and work the land after three years and pay rent a

andrew johnson, things would've been quite different. think about it this way. what makes our reconstruction so much harder than 1945 in japan, or 1945 in germany? and the answer is harry truman digs his heels in and says here's the way it's going to be. were as president johnson is like, this, just go about your business. so johnson, if there is a villain in the book, johnson is it. he is just a terrible president. >> something you said kind of peaked my interest. you mentioned briefly that there was some interest in our policy of land redistribution. can you fill that out a little bit? did he ever get anywhere and liked what was it means or sort of the structure of that plan? >> bear in mind is a lot of areas in the south were early on during the war, whites abandoned the coast of south olympic they abandoned the coast of georgia. that, of course, is one of the first place as u.s. forces land early on. 63, have taken over the coast of south carolina. the whites flee inland. so that our giant pockets in the south with her on the whites. there are areas where the soldiers arrived, slaves moved into the plantation big house, divided the land up, and the number of the ge

andrew johnson things would have been really quite different. and think about it this way, what makes our reconstruction so much harder than, say, 1945 in japan or 1945 in germany? and the answer is harrytruman, you know, digs his heels in and says here's the way it's going to be and whereas, you know, president johnson's like we'll just kind of go about your business. so johnson, if there's a villain in the book, johnson is it. he's just a terrible president. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> hi. something you said kind of piqued my interest. you mentioned briefly there was an interest in the policy of land redirection. can you fill that out a little built, did it ever get anywhere, and what was the means or sort of structure of that plan. >> well, of course, bear in mind there's a lot of areas in the south where early on during the war whites simply abandoned -- they abandoned the coast of south carolina, they abandoned the coast of georgia. and that, of course, is some of the first places that the u.s. forces land early on. in '63 they've taken over the coast of south carolina. and the whites just flee inland. so there's actually giant pockets of the south where there are no whites and

andrew taylor of the "associated press" is leading the chase for this. you are saying the republicans requested the microphones be turned off? >> that is correct. what i just received, and this is a quote from harryd's spokesperson: the clerk didn't call the names at the senate request to make it easier for republican leaders to convince their members to switch their votes. end quote. that is what was suspected by people monitoring this. there were a number of senators who were republicans who after their vote -- it was clear they were 1-2 votes short of the 60 votes needed for a fill buster. so it was clear there was arm twisting going on to get over that hurdle. it wasn't clear that was going to happen until a republican from texas, john cormin, and mitch mcconnell voted in favor of the motion to cutoff debate. >> on that arm twisting, and you and others wrote about this, let's talk about the politics for those who didn't see the vote, what was at stake in bringing the debt ceiling for the senate? what was in stake for the republicans voting for it? >> the bill is a clean suspension of the debt ceiling for about 13 months. they are voting on, if you are a republican, or someone who is in a repu