dies right after jackson is elected in 1828. so andrew and emily come to the white house, and essentially serve as a buffer -- or try to serve as a buffer between jackson and washington society. host: did they think there was anything wrong with it back then? guest: no -- no, i think the expectation was you would bring some family with you. donelson -- in his case, he actually doesn't get an official paid position, a salaried position, until jackson's second term. he serves as secretary of the general land office, so he signs off on land office patents. so for a long time, he is not actually even paid by the government. but no, they didn't see anything wrong with that. host: so why do you think the media cares so much today about family being around donald trump? guest: well, i think it's the enrichment, the personal enrichment, that can take place. i think the influence is going to be there regardless. and to think that any family member that a president cares about, that that family member's not going to influence them is -- is really n

i said, when was andrew jackson. 1828. a long time ago. that's andrew jackson. a mean and nasty campaign. they said this was the meanest and nastiest. unfortunately it continues. then you listen to what he said just yesterday -- or sunday, about kim jong-un. listen to this. >> and at a very young age, he was able to assume power. a lot of people i'm sure tried to take that power away, whether it was his uncle or anybody else. and he was able to do it. so obviously he's a pretty smart cookie. >> a.b., is it a stretch to think he relates to these people. he, too, got power from his father at a very young age and was able to parlay that into success. are we just sort of seeing what president trump values because it reminds him of himself? >> well, perhaps. i actually think that sometime during the campaign, steve bannon told donald trump that his movement was similar to the populist attraction of andrew jackson and dragged him down to his grave on his birthday when other advisers in the white house, and this has been reported, wanted him to go to an event with just

so you're thinking he's comparing himself to andrew jackson? >> well, he likes jackson. he's gone to jackson. >> salena said she didn't think he was comparing himself to andrew jackson. >> well, we know he likes him. we know he has admiration for him and he likes him because of supposedly being a populist, being a guy who really kind of fought the institution. but here's an interesting just little thing to take in. he's got -- here trump is with the two founders of the democratic party hanging in the oval office. jefferson and jackson. the very two people that the democratic party reveres. they have their party every year about march or so. they have a big party >> what does that have to do with the civil war, andre? >> well, you're beating up trump. >> i'm not beating him up. i'm asking you what -- >> i'm telling you these are two democrats that are revered by the democratic party. if you want to attack somebody and beat them up, they're the people that raised the money for him. that's who they revere. god. >> don, wait, can i -- look -- >> go ahead. >> i will almost ag

so you're thinking he's comparing himself to andrew jackson? >> well, he likes jackson.one to jackson. >> salena said she didn't think he was comparing himself to andrew jackson. >> well, we know he likes him. we know he has admiration for him and supposedly being a populist, being a guy who fought the institution, but here's an interesting little thing to take in. he's got -- here trump is with the two founders of the democratic party hanging in the oval office. two people that the democratic party reveres, they have their party about march or so and -- >> what does that have to do with the civil war, andre? >> well, you're beating up trump. >> i'm not beating him up. i'm asking you what -- >> democrats revered by the democratic party. if you want to attack somebody and beat them up, they're the people that raised the money for him. trump's not a republican or democrat. this guy's an independent, quite frankly. he's got different party leaders hanging in his office. >> he's not a republican? >> trying to get things done and -- i think he's more of an independent, quite

it's not historically accurate, both the idea that andrew jackson was not alive during the civil war, so he could not have been upset about what was happening during the civil war. i think even more importantly than that was that his belief that jackson could have worked something out. what would have been his work out? the only acceptable resolution for the civil war was the abolition of slavery. what would jackson compromise been? semi-slavery? >> for the president -- there's a lot to touch on here. as charles said for the president to say jackson was alive, it was odd. he got it wrong on that account, no? >> here is the thing with andrew jackson. the president identifies with his economic populism. when it comes to race, i don't want my friend charles to fall over, but i agree with him. i would add not simply was an economy built on the backs of slaves, the democratic party was built on the back of slave and race. my argument is that that culture of race and racism and obsession with race has never left the party and is still present there today. that is part of the legacy -- the r

just listen to the andrew jackson thing and what the momentum seems to be behind this. >> had andrew jackson been a little later, we wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person but he had a big heart. and he was really angry that -- he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war and said there's no reason for this. people don't realize the civil war -- >> yeah. >> you think about it, why? people don't ask that question, why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> then when this gets called out he tweets this. >> he says president andrew jackson who died 16 years before the civil war started saw it coming and was angry, would never have let it happen. i think he was upset people were questioning his math. but really that wasn't his point. he said that had andrew jackson been later he would have stopped it. >> the question is not the math, david, but why? >> right. he's so enamored of the painting of andrew jackson in the oval office, he's now starting -- >> starting to talk to it and hear answers. >> right. this is a fascinating

i understand he has a fascination because people compared his campaign to andrew jackson's. st here. he was trying to project that andrew -- if only andrew jackson could have fixed it. one person maybe if he had been there. like me, i could -- he is saying, i can do it. i only i can do it. historically, that's just so not true. the american -- our country for 30 years tried to prevent the civil war with all different things that led up to it. i'm talking about from where andrew jackson is going on, from the missouri compromise, that didn't work. kansas nebraska didn't work. all these things. one person could have prevented that? >> i think there's indignation by trump critics who found one more issue -- >> saying that one person who was a slave owner and that slavery wasn't the main reason? >> caesar was alive today or if only george washington was here today -- >> why can't you guys just stop and say that what the president said was stupid? why do you feel the need to just constantly defend everything this man says? it was ridiculous. i mean, i don't get it. >> one second. >

he suggested former president andrew jackson could have prevented it. >> i mean, had andrew jackson been a little later, you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart. he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. >> reporter: that would have been impossible because andrew jackson died 16 years before the civil war even began. the controversies didn't stop there. president trump again re-visiting debunked wiretapping claims in an interview with cbs. >> you stand by that claim -- >> i don't stand by anything. you can take it the way you want. i think our side has been proven strongly. everybody is talking about it. frankly, it should be discussed. i think that is a very big surveillance of our citizens. i think that's a very big topic. it's a topic that should be number one. we should find out what the hell is going on. >> i wanted to find out, you are the president of the united states. you said he was sick and bad because he tapped -- >> you can take it any way you want. >> i'm asking you, because you don't wan

and now, who thinks that andrew jackson was some role model. andrew jackson was a slave owner. andrew jackson murdered thousands and thousands of native americans. that's how he got to be so famous. and we're holding him up as a role model? i mean, come on. this is the worst donald trump i think has ever sunk. >> i think that when -- >> paris, go ahead. >> in a day in age when people are still denying the holocaust and talking about that issue as if it didn't happen, we can go back and ask why hitler did what he did to exterminate so many jews. we should ask why so that it never happens again. so, it is fair, bill, for the president to ask the question. >> no, no -- >> as to why we had the civil war so that it never happens again, so the divisions we saw again will not happen now. >> paris, paris -- >> and as it relates to frederick douglass, bill, wiei in the room when that happened -- [ everyone talking at once ] >> if everyone talks at the same time, i can't hear you. paris, finish. >> the only point i'm making is, we can ask the question why, and we should always ask the qu

and ronald reagan really talks up andrew jackson. has embraced this man for the most part, presidents have not touched until the latter part of the 20th century. >> david, why are you reacting the way you are? >> everything is right about jackson. but the important question about trump's comments are not the substance of what he said about jackson or said about the causes of the civil war because it's mostly nonsense. the relevant question is, is it dangerous when we have a president who doesn't have much historical knowledge? if you're going to make history, which presidents can do every day, you should know some history first. all presidents will face major crises. all kinds of crises. but if they don't know anything about previous crises, how will they react? how will they know what to do? >> he tweeted this. he said president andrew jackson who died before the civil warsaw it coming and was angry. would never let it happen. you say the president's comments -- i'm going to be more specific here, are profoundly ignora ignorant. and

did he know andrew jackson was dead at the time. it's not clear from that audio, but the tweet implies. >> even if he did, andrew jackson, we were talking about putti inting new face on $10 bi. maybe he needs to go. he died a slave owner. trail of tears. really his legacy has not held up as well as one would have thought. he was a shrewd politician and a pop list. lots of people think around donald trump and others have been talking about andrew jackson so he had a little bit of information. >> the outsider mentality is what he's clinging to. >>> violent protests marring i may day protests. e details of those, next. >>> violence broke out across the country on monday. dozens arrested in oregon as anarchists smashed windows and targeted police officers with incendiary devices. police in seattle say five people were arrested in protests downtown including a 26-year-old who threw a rock as trump and anti-trump demonstrators faced off. >>> in olympia the protests turned into a riot with people in the crowd throwing rocks and bottles. a

had andrew jackson been later, you wouldn't have had the civil war.a very tough person. but he had a big heart. and he was he was really angry. that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize, you know, the civil war -- >> yeah. >> you think about it, why? people don't ask that question. but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> the civil war, of course, started 16 years after andrew jackson died. the reasons the war broke out have been studied extensively. countless books have been written on the subject. slavery was the central issue in the fight over states' rights that led to the civil war. and for the record, president jackson was a slave owner. those are facts. lots to discuss with charles and jeffrey lord. charles, these comments by the president, what do you make of them? >> as usual, it's very hard -- it's kind of hard to figure it what he's saying, what we believe he's saying. it's not hysterically accurate. both the idea that andrew

was awful, and yet, you know, trump doesn't seem to get that awfulens, it seems with regard to andrew jackson seems to be disconnected from it. he wants to cherry pick the populace president frame and leave everything else. i mean, certainly jackson was an outsider. so trump seems to be, he likes that piece of it. but that just doesn't make sense in this particular context. he owned 150 slaves when he passed away. he was proslavery and prowest ward expansion. that doesn't mention the trail of tiers, chris. now, we have enough information and there's enough information out there for us to sort of have a robust interpretation of what the so-called founding fathers and what they can contributed, but also what their limitations were and the president of the united states has got to be a student of history, chris. you can't have the awesome power of the presidency of the united states and not understand some of the longer form trajectories of how things changed, what the role presidents play in change, what the limitations are. lincoln is by most accounts one of the greatest presidents. it was not

and our seventh president, andrew jackson. the topic came up in an interview for sirius xm in the oval office today because presidents have choices in the artwork they hang. the president has chosen to have andy jackson's portrait hanging just to his left in the oval office. here's a bit more from that he can change. >> i mean h andrew jackson been a little bit later you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was -- he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart. and he was -- he was really angry that -- he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there is no reason for this. >> again, jackson died 16 years before the civil war. he was also a save owner and he sign the indian remove act of 1830 which led to the brutal and forcible relocation of multiple tribes of native americans. this from just over two hours ago from the president, perhaps after sampling some of the tonnage of news that his comments have generated he doubled down, and we quote, president jackson who died 16 years before the civil war star

steve bannon is a big andrew jackson fan. and now doubt turned president trump into an andrew jackson fan. in order for president trump to negotiate away the civil war, he would have to know why the civil war was fought. jon meacham who wrote the definitive biography of andrew jackson said to "the new york times" today "the expansion of slavery caused the civil war. and you can't get around that. so what does trump mean? would he have let slavery exist but not expand? that's the counter-factual question you have to ask." so in the next trump interview yes, only hope that the interviewer will ask president trump how he would have avoided the civil war. how much slavery would president trump have been willing to allow in the new territories of the united states? that's another version of today's question, easier question of are you for making coverage of preexisting conditions mandatory or optional? the governing outcome is always in the details. always. so as jon meacham is insisting, you cannot say you would have negotiated a

i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson he has to put nations in front of his own personhood, put nation front of his own family and in front of his own interest. that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at eight eastern on c-span's q&a. >> on monday, washington journal is from a news organization founded earlier this year. will discuss the challenges facing new startups. our guests include cofounder executive editor mike allen. we'll have the latest news from the white house and capitol hill. washington journal, live from arlington virginia starting at 8:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. on monday at three judge panel of the ninth circuit court of appeals will hear oral arguments on the revised travel ban, who i versus tron. the court is considering an appeal on issuing visas from six majority muslim countries. hawaii was the first state to see the trump organization which removed iraq from the list. c-span petition the ninth circuit the court granted our request. live coverage begins monday at 1230 eastern on c-span. >> na

i think the andrew jackson thing is he doesn't oh to steve bannon likely told him he is similar to andrew jackson. he internalized that. but he doesn't have any working knowledge of that period of time. i think he just didn't know, right? the surveillance thing in my opinion is different, which is there is tangible evidence from the fbi director, from the director of national intelligence, from the speaker of the house, paul ryan saying this did not happen. president obama did not order a wiretap of trump tower in the 2016 campaign. yet, if you go to that interview, trump says i think i was way ahead of it. i think it's a big story. everyone is talking about it and everyone now agrees with me. it is provably false. he knows that comey, clapper, ryan, that all of these people have said he is not correct. he just refuses to acknowledge it because he refuses to ever apologize. his modus operandi is in every situation declare victory and move on. and that's what he's doing. but that doesn't change the fact that his facts don't exist currently and he refuses to provide us with them. >> i think

while discussing andrew jackson, quote, had andrew jackson been a little later you wouldn't have had the civil war. also this, also, quote, jackson was really angry when he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. as has been noted all day long as we will talk about later in the broadcast. andrew jackson died 16 years before start of the civil war. now to donald trump's up vit to the internationally condemned president of the philippines and admitted killer, the man behind the deadly crack dop on drugs in that nation, the president said quote he has a very high approval rating in the philippines. on the threat from north korea there was this today, quote, nobody's safe. but the president would be, quote, honored to meet with kim jong-un a man he called a pretty smart cookie. over the course of the next hour we'll listen to each one of these remarks in context and discuss the news story attached to them. but we begin with north korea. >> how safe are our troops there along the demilitarized zone and our ally in south korea? how safe are they with some of the defense systems

and i said, when was andrew jackson? it was 1828. that's a long time ago. that's andrew jackson.and he had a very, very skmeen nasty campaign. because they said this was the meanest and the nastiest. and unfortunately it continues. >> he's -- >> i mean he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart. and he was, he was really angry that he saw what he was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize, you know, the civil war, if you think about it, why? people don't ask that question, but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> for the record, jackson's presidency term ended 24 years before the start of the civil war. jackson died 16 years before the start of the war, the nation's seventh president was a proud slave owner. people do in fact ask why was there the civil war. most ebb historians agree the cause was slaifrmt journalism professor. jason, i'm going to -- i mean. where to start? does it matter he sort of screwed up up the history? to be honest i think he read something about 1832

until the richard nixon, republicans didn't talk about andrew jackson.on starts that trend and it's ronald regan really talks him up. trump has embraced this man that for the most part presidents have not touched until the latter part of the 20th century. >> i think everything is right about jackson but to me the important question about trump's comments are not the substance of what he said about jackson or the causes of the civil war because it's mostly nonsense. the relevant question is is it dangerous when we have a president with little historical knowledge? you should know history first. all presidents will face major cries. but if they don't know anything about previous crisis, then how will they react? how will they know what to do? >> he said president andrew jackson died before the civil war started saw it coming and was angry, would never let it happen. they're profoundly ignorant r dangerous consequences. >> he didn't improve things with that late night response. well, first of all, the idea that one strong man, president or otherwise could h

jon meacham, we can ask the easy question about andrew jackson. obviously he was wrong about andrew jock son and the civil war but a matter of about 15 years. i want to ask you the more difficult question. do you follow douglas brinkley in your assessment that the president of the united states certainlyov over the past 48 hos has appeared to have a, quote, koun confused mental state, more so even than before? >> i think you're right. reading the transcripts is always fascinating, because you do get inside the brain and begin to see how much bluffing does go on. the image that came to my mind was less about confusion and more about -- felt more like a pinball machine or arcade. he's just this steel ball that hits something, the bells go off and he bounces off and hits something else. that's not the most reassuring image you want at the nuclear age at the highest levels. >> what was the line from the civil war? nobody asked this question before -- >> why didn't anyone work that one out? >> he started, but nobody has asked this question before, but w

that andrew jackson represented. he certainly represent some of the negative values that jackson represented. think i would tell president trump that if you was to be like andrew jackson he has to but the nation and front of his own person, in front of his own family. in front of his own interests because that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> tonight on 8:00 eastern una. --q and a. >> now senator chris murphy holds a town hall. this is about one hour and a half. [applause] >> thank you. sit down. sit down. thank you, everybody. that is very nice. cold and thatve makes the feel better today. i feel more well with that nice introduction.

our guest mark cheetham on his book "andrew jackson, southerner." >> i don't think he represents the positive values jackson represented. he certainly represents some of the negative values jackson represented. but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own personhood, in front of his own family, and front of his own interests because that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. announcer: sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's "q&a." tv"uncer: "american history was at the organization of american historians annual meeting where he spoke with barbara shubinski about how the rockefellers philanthropic mission started and how it has changed over the years. -- barbara: alongside graduate school, i had a number of jobs in what we call the third sector or nonprofit organizations. i'm familiar with being a grant seeker and being aware there is a whole philanthropic structure that underwrote or funded or supported what we would call nonprofit or third sector work in the u.s. as i was finishing up my degr

if it you thought that andrew jackson was going to fix the civil war, andrew jackson brutalized and killed genocidal a number of native americans. andrew jackson owned 150 slaves. the civil war wasn't about economics. the currency they were trading in was my forefathers. so this isn't some individual who was going to grow a heart and end the civil war. we know why the war was fought. for donald trump to ask himself why was the civil war thought is historically ignorant you're entitled to your own opinion. you're not entitled to your own facts. that's my problem with this revisionist whitewash of history. >> it's not whitewashing to imply there's racial connotation to i or to donald trump. people are getting sick and tired of the race card being thrown around. when you have a president looking back at an individual that understood exactly how brutal war was. when you look at the history of the context of what donald trump was talking about, you have a president that experienced war. you have family members that were killed in war. you have as a child he was brutalized because of war. to imp

. >> i mean, had andrew jackson been a little bit later you would not have had the civil war.ugh person. but he had a big heart. and he was -- he was really angry, he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there is no reason for this. people don't realize, the civil war -- you think about it, why? people don't ask that question, but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> let's get some reaction. >> people don't ask that question? i think people do actually ask that question. i was with trump the day he went to andrew jackson's childhood home and he was reading a speech and talking about andrew jackson as if he had really heard many of the things for the first time so some of this does not actually surprise me. >> there is a great scene in "revenge of the nerds," where he says what if cat really spells dog? phil made this point earlier about duterte, the idea that he is reading up on these things whether it's the philippines president or andrew jackson is just not right. he gets in these situations and doesn't prepare.

and andrew jackson was of course a slaveholder. maria cardona, is there much more to say about this? do you want to get in before we move on? >> i mean, i just have one piece of advice for donald trump. mr. trump, crack a book. i mean, seriously. there's no other piece of advice that anybody can give him. he is the president of the united states, and when he says ridiculous statements like this, it betrays his complete and total ignorance when it comes to history, but worse than that, john and poppy, i think it really signifies how uninterested and i think disdain that he has for people who really are not just historians, but experts in public policy and in politics and in everything that you need to know to actually learn to govern and be able to run a country. he needs to go back to the drawing board. yes, i think it's too late, which is why, you know, the majority of americans did not support him. we knew that he had this disdain for knowledge and lack of curiosity that makes him completely inept for this job. >> all right, let'

andrew jackson was born 16 years before the civil war started.corrected himself later. he also talked about what an honor it would be to meet with kim jong-un. he floated the idea of a gas tax. talked about breaking up banks. had a friendly phone call with president duterte over the weekend. what do you make of all this? is this pressures of the white house that are causing donald trump to act erratically? or is it somethi else? >> well, it's hard to get inside his mind. we're beginning to get used to his patterns, and they are predictably unpredictable. what i find fascinating is his total ignorance on so many issues. i wonder about that call to putin, for example, if he went through the normal protocols of actually preparing for it, having people in from the state department, then carefully recording it. i thought, what in the world is the guy who's translating that call in russia doing? because if you've ever read a trump transcript -- >> oh, i have. >> you indeed have. they are doozies. so probably very tough translation. but he's all over th

andrew jackson didn't inherit slaves.ere's no evidence he would have stopped it or had had any investment in stopping the exof slaveriy. the fact that america itself was built on the exploited labor. donald trump's lack of knowledge about it really lack of care talking about a painful issue was stunning to me. it's still stunning. >> actually jackson wanted to keep the union together. he wanted to do everything he could to not have the union break up. he was actually more about the federal system protecting the little people. so he actually made very well have been able to broker a deal. >> go ahead, clickly. >> the south was actively trying to expand slavery at the moment. yes, he wanted to keep the federal government together, but on his terms. the whole point is that the civil war was a fight to end slavery. yes, people wanted to keep the union together. and i'm not suggesting these had an investment in african people and want to end slavery for its own sake. but ultimately this was his decision made to save the union

>> in fact, andrew jackson died in june of 1845, more than a decade and a half before the war actuallyegan. the president did not elaborate on how jackson, a slave owner whose tennessee plantation trump visited in march, would have actually resolved the conflict. he tweeted last night, quote, president jackson, president andrew jackson, i should say, who died 16 years before the civil war started saw it coming and was angry. would have never let it happen. >>> president trump also dismissed reports of in-fighting within his administration telling bloomberg his chief strategist steve bannon is a decent guy who's just getting a bad wrap. >> bannon, you know, i like him a lot. he's actually a very good guy. sometimes i call him alt-left, okay. i mean, he's -- >> what does that mean? >> he's more of a libertarian, if you want to know the truth, okay? he's really -- you know, they give him a bad rap. bannon is a very decent guy who feels very strongly about the country, like wise jared, and they're getting along fine. >> trump admitted there was past tension between members of his staff say

>> first andrew jackson died 16 years before the civil war started.on top of that, he owned about 150 slaves at the time of his death. i want to welcome karen finney, msnbc political analyst, and the founder of foundry strategies and a former spokesperson for the ted cruz campaign. >> pretty clear that it happens and why it happened. here's the problem with this whole thing. it is funny in many ways. it shows a sort of, what we know about this president. facts don't really seem the matter. truths don't really seem to matter. on a serious note, the question that it raises is, i would want to then know, what is it that president trump believes the civil war and why it started? there's a neo confederate movement that says hit nothing to do with slavery. is the president trying to pittsburgh the civil war was not about slavery? that it was about economics? is he trying, there's actually a serious question. >> there is. but karen makes a good point. let's say you agree it was about states rights. the federal government trampbling all over them. wasn't a si

just to the andrew jackson point, i really am disturbed by him saying that andrew jackson had a big heartnd he was tough and fascinating. he owned slaves when he died. he massacred native americans. we cannot rewrite history in this way. it is really important that the president of the united states understand our own history. if not, how is he going to lead this country? >> thank you so much. robert, as well. thank you both. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. ready or not, here i come.ek.) ♪ anyone can dream. making it a reality is the hard part. northrop grumman command and control systems always let you see the complete picture. and we're looking for a few dreamers to join us. ♪ can i get some help. watch his head. ♪ i'm so happy. ♪ whatever they went through, they went through together. welcome guys. life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you. >>> thank you for watching this hour of msnbc live from washington. i'm chris jansing. you can find me on social media, @chris jansing. right now, more news with stephanie ruhle. hey, stephanie. >> thanks so

on his book "andrew jackson: southerner." he representsink the positive values that jackson represented. he represents some of the negative values represented by jackson but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he wants to put nation in front of his own personhood and family and interest because that is what jackson did for much of his presidency. >> tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's q&a. >> this morning, adam brandon, president and ceo of freedom works talks about efforts to change tax law and how the senate should proceed with the health care replacement bill. then american university professor alan lichtman talks that the case for an impeachment investigation. and later, the atlantic contributor caitlin flanagan on her article entitled "how late-night comedy fueled the -- asf donald trump." the >> i have talked to the president. the president has nothing further to add on that. >> why did he say that? what should we interpret from that? >> as i mentioned, the president has

trump, ifll president he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own personould -- personhood and his own family and his own interests. that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q&a. >> "washington journal" continues. host: our next guest for the morning is jonathan turley with george washington university law school, teaches law, here to talk about the firing of james comey. what was the reality of the firing versus what you may be perceived that the perception of the firing? guest: it is unusual to see the response. everyone gets ahead of their skis in terms of what the significance was and what was the motivation. the fact is the merits of the termination were debatable. there were good faith reasons why comey would be terminated.

that jackson represented, but i think i would tell president trump that if you wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own personhood, his own ,amily, his own interests because that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span's "q&a." "afterwards," elizabeth rosenthal explores the business side of health care in her book. dr. rosenthal is interviewed by dr. david blumenthal, the president of the commonwealth fund. >> has your book given you any thoughts on whether health care is a free market, whether it can solve our problems through free markets? isi think what we have seen probably not. at the beginning of the book, i put a somewhat tongue-in-cheek part about the dysfunctional roles of the health care market, where as if you think of health care as a butte -- as a business proposition, the market -- you will get too crazy places. a lifetime of treatment is preferable to a cure. i am not saying for a second that anyone really thinks that, but that is where market forces put you right now. "afterwards" tonight. fish and wi

that andrew jackson represented. he certainly represent some of the negative values that jackson represented. think i would tell president trump that if you was to be like andrew jackson he has to but the nation and front of his own person, in front of his own family. in front of his own interests because that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> tonight on 8:00 eastern una. --q and a. >> now senator chris murphy holds a town hall. this is about one hour and a half. [applause] >> thank you. sit down. sit down. thank you, everybody. that is very nice. cold and thatve makes the feel better today. i feel more well with that nice introduction. d which and i say and that covers it. thank all of the folks who are here, you are doing a fantastic job every single day bringing educational opportunities to kids and adults here in stamford. thank you for opening this up to your representatives. thank you for being here, i want ofget right to the meat this. i am sure you have loads of questions about what is happen

our guest on his book, andrew jackson, southerner. >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he certainly represents some of the negative values that jackson represented, but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his personhood, has to put nation in front of his own family and interest because that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's "q&a." >>> to experience a fulfilling, purposeful life, one thing you're going to have to do is this -- live a large life. >> you are your own stories. and therefore free to imagine and experience what it means to be human. >> we have a responsibility in our time as others have had in their's, not to be prisoners of history but to shape history. a responsibility to fill the role of pathfinder. >> holding fast to your come pas of values, faith, honesty, loyalty, patriotism and generosity. >> just a few past commencement speeches from the c-span video library. and again this year, watch co

our guest on his book "andrew jackson, seven or." -- seven outehrner." >> he certainly represents some of the negative values jackson represented. i think i would tell president trump if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own family,od, his own nation in fr

. >> let's dig in more on andrew jackson and the civil war. here's what he said.nd then we'll talk about it. >> i mean had andrew jackson been a little bit later he wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. and he was really angry that he saw what was happening with the regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize the civil war, if you think about it why? people don't ask that question. but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> is there anything in his record, in his history that shows he could have averted the civil war, andrew jackson? >> of course not. and it's been well talked about on your show even tonight. he's a slave owner. the trail of tears is known as probably the most brutal act of extermination of native people. native people weren't treated well in america, period, but andrew jackson -- i'm not suggesting we don't study his presidency correctly, but this is not an education lesson. i have to teach history. high school teachers are t

why does he like andrew jackson?se at some point he was on some shag rug floor and he likes davey crockett and likes that andrew jackson was full of pepper. that's what he knows about andrew jackson and as far as the civil war, the idea that people aren't quite sure how it went. does he know nothing about the fact that there's a whole wing of scholarships arguing over why there was a civil war and that certain conclusions have been come to? i mean, really, that kind of scholarship isn't covered in elementary or middle or even high school, but his idea that the civil war is unchartered territory, like some mystery about the moon landing, it means he didn't pay attention in school. he couldn't even pay attention in school. and now he's running the united states of america. >> well, and you said this is not about language, you're right, trump's unique perspective of the civil war reveals more than trump's lack of book smarts or interests of the inept in the african-american, rather, trump's ignorance about something is

our guest on his book "andrew jackson: southerner." >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he represents the negative values that jackson represented. i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own personhood and his own family and his own interests. that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night on c-span's q&a. sunday night on afterw ords, the business side of health care in "an american sickness: how health care became big business and how you can take it back." she's interviewed by dr. david blumenthal. >> was wondering if your book give you any thoughts about whether health care is a free market. whether we can solve our problems in health care through free-market forces. >> i think what we've seen is the answer is probably not. , ithe beginning of the book put a tongue-in-cheek list of the economic rules in the dysfunctional health care market. if you think of health care as a business proposition that the market will solve, you get to crazy places like a

that jackson represented but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson has to put nation in front of his own personhood, has to put nation in front of his own family, has to put nation front of his own it should because that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at eight eastern on c-span's q&a. >> secretary of state rex tillerson spoke to employees at the state department headquarters last week. he didn't mention the trump administration blade to cut almost 10% of the state department workforce. >> ladies and gentlemen,, the secretary of state. [applause] >> good morning. thank you. thank you. are we on? can you all hear me back there in the back? can you hear me now? [laughing] can you hear me now? >> yes. >> all right. i told them i have to walk around. my wife has always said if you tied my hands down to my side, i would be a complete mute. so i'm not great at podiums. i do know how to read a speech, but i thought today we'd just have a chat. so i've been here about three months now, we've been working alongside one another,

the president speaking about his admiration for president andrew jackson. saying jackson would have been able to prevent the civil war. there were questions about this. let's listen. >> had andrew jackson been a little later you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. think about it, why? people don't ask that question, but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> jon, some historians are scratching their heads over this. >> well, it's unclear how andrew jackson would have prevented the civil war if he had been alive. he actually died 16 years before the civil war started. on the one hand, he was a strong advocate of the union. on the other hand, he was a southerner and david, he was an unapologetic slave owner. >> jon, thank you. >>> meantime, tonight, the new effort to repeal and replace obamacare. republicans hoping for a new vote this week. among the big questions, even as the president says pre-existing conditions will be covered, will this new

our guest on his book andrew jackson, seven or. >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he certainly represent of the negatives that jackson represented but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson has to put nation in front of his own personhood, has to put nation in front of his own family, has to put nation front of his own it should because that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at eight eastern on c-span's q&a. >> secretary of state rex tillerson spoke to employees at the state department headquarters last week. he didn't mention the trump administration blade to cut almost 10% of the state department workforce. >> ladies and gentlemen,, the secretary

. >> tonight on q&a, the comparisons between donald trump and andrew jackson. , "andrew has a book jackson: seven or." >> he represents some of the negative values jackson represented. i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put the nation in front of his own personhood, in front of his own family, in front of his own interests. that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> tonight on q&a. c-span's q&a. >> join washington journal on monday as we visit the offices organization start up and hear from their editors and reporters on the news of the day. joining us will be the cofounder jonathan swann, national political reporter, and kate linda owens, health care reporter. and mike allen, caps on -- cofounder of axios and executive editor. live, monday morning, starting at 8 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> now, a senate intelligence committee hearing on global

under the andrew jackson point, we could use more discussion of the war of 1812. hick try, jackson was controversial because of how he dealt with the native americans. so it is intriguing to see him citing andrew jackson. >> the health care bill that you just mentioned, has it optional for the states to choose whether they're going to cover preexisting conditions, allowing some states to hike up the premiums for those who do have preexisting conditions. was the president upnaware of that or has something changed? >> based on my reporting, the president has not been deeply involved in the revival of health care talks. it's been the vice president, the freedom caucus in the tuesday group. it was somewhat startling to see the president wasn't fully familiar with these details, to be sure. >> jonathan, let's talk about the budget. it doesn't githere's no money f the wall. can the white house say we're going to get more defense spending, which is what we wanted, and that goes to the border for immigration spending essentially. that this is just the first part in a long