and when trump toured andrew jackson's home in 2017, you wrote an open letter urging him to, quote... what do you see now in hindsight? and i know you say it takes 30 years to really understand a presidency in the in the context of history. but what do you see as the points of overlap and the critical differences between the two presidents? >> the critical difference -- and by the way, that letter i wrote had no effect whatever -- [ laughs ] -- on the president. andrew jackson, for all of his manifold sins and wickedness, and there were a lot of them, believed in the american union. he believed in the constitution. so it had to be -- it had to be protted. so there was union above all. look, president trump... jackson understood popular narrative. jackson would've been great on twitter. but when andrew jackson lost a presidential election that was far closer and far more complicated than the one trump lost freely and fairly, what did he do? he came back to nashville, and he decided that he would run again. he didn't storm the capitol. he didn't send people to decertify anything. he fol

rumors that persisted that rachel jackson's marriage had not legally ended before she married andrew jackson. and these kinds of rumors circulated during the campaign. right. and jackson would attribute them to contributing to her death. right. so jackson is without a wife. his secretary of state and chief diplomat martin buren was also a widower by point in time. so some believe that with official position of first lady being empty that peggy eaton might fill role. right. might be the symbolic head of washington society. right. to be clear, she would not. it's going be jackson's late wife's niece, emily donaldson, who will fill that role. but there is a lot of anxiety that. this woman, right. is going to be, you know, organizing parties and events at the white house in the name of administration. right now, some of these fears and anxieties about too much democracy are going to seem to come true. as you can see here in this rendering of inauguration day at the white house. famously, it really got out of control. some historians refer to it as a riot. but a lot of these new voters are going

then you have andrew jackson who comes to office with ideas about american nationality as defined byur race. he believed to be an american, you had to be european and african americans and indigenous people, mexicans were all excluded. excluded from american nationality. there are these competing ideas of nationalism. they push the idea that nationality for us is defined by the constitution. the constitution is the organic expression of the american people and the constitution made us all americans regardless of our race, our faith, what part of the country we live in. the book is basically the story of how he did that. >> daniel webster is in the subtitle but shouldn't readers expect a flawed biography of daniel webster in your pages? >> this is not a full biography of daniel webster. this notion of american nationalism began to crystallize. susan: today, nationalism can be a toxic concept. how do you feel about that as someone exploring the roots of american nationalism? joel: it was processed because of the american toxicity of american nationalism today, there will be talk about

to expunge the party led by henry clay and the party passed a resolution of censure that took andrew jackson, president johnson to task for removing the bank deposits that inaugurated the war in the second term but when they regain control of congress they passed what was known as the expunging resolution and what they aim to do is expunge the centura from the journal to get it out of the record of the senate journal. by the virginia legislature they refused and resigned in february of 1836 out of principal. but he returned to politics yet again a year and a half later. he was elected to the virginia legislature for the third time and again we see this pattern of looking at a way to try to continue his political career by using the legislature in the supreme court. he got himself nominated as vice president in the convention 1839 the national convention that nominated harrison and then of course he defeated the incumbent martin van buren in 1840. harrison died 32 days into his term and this image on the right is a romanticized image with the passing

he liked military heroes such as andrew jackson and zachary taylor. but he was tiresome, and he had critics among the jeffersonians who but he weighed in as an essayist and orator on the top tier issues of the first half of the 19th century, which included domestic economic independence, farming, innovation, collapse of his beloved federalist party. the advent of the steamship and the railroad. protection of the rights of irish catholic immigrants. and the first federal benefits for war veterans. he greeted, advise and entertained countless influential guests at arlington house. now, when the u.s. declared war on england in 1812, he opposed that, as did the federalists in general. but by the time 1814 rolled around, the british were attacking washington. custis declared himself ready to fight and he participated in the battle of bladensburg, suburban maryland. and he accepted no, no pay. his farm innovations were acknowledged nationally in the field. and today the u.s. agriculture department on its website has a little notation about custer's contribu

the whig party, led by henry clay in the senate, had passed a resolution of censure that took andrew jackson, president jackson to task for removing the bank deposits which inaugurated the bank war in jackson's second term. when the democrats regained control of congress, they passed what was known as the expunging resolution. what they aimed to do was to expunge the censure from the senate journal. literally, to get it out of the record of the senate journal. tyler was instructed to vote for the expunging resolution by the virginia legislature, he refused, he resigned in february of 1836 out of principle. he returned to politics yet again a year and a half later. he was elected to the virginia legislature for the third time. again, we see this pattern of looking at a way to try to continue his political career by -- he got himself nominated by the whigs in 1839, the national convention. and of course, tippecanoe in tyler to defeated the incumbent martin van buren in 1840. harrison died 32 days into his term, tyler became president. the image on the right is a romanticized image of tyler's

the of power american andrew jackson. in the house, which won a pulitzer prize by the way american gospel and franklin, winston and others. his latest book and was light abraham and the american struggle. so random house book 676 pages and highly illustrated and is $40 and if you purchase this book while you're watching the show or afterward you might be on either c-span or on your channel. i lincoln bookshop, youtube. you will get this crafted book right that we have and that's our logo. it was produced by carl sandburg all those years ago back in the 1930s and john has these signed for and for you. so john, i want to begin by saying that the book design was really and we didn't expect how wonderful the design is. it's one of the real selling points behind beside your writing and for us, of course the goal and this is placed on beautiful as well. i love the paper and in our shop we have enough of them though to call what we're calling a show of eyes from the gardner photograph. you see, that's what it looks like on our b

but to do a little bit of background, let's talk about andrew jackson. that's a presidential presidential portrait of andrew jackson an illustration talk a little bit about jack sodium democracy. so we haven't talked about jacksonian democracy much yet. we're kind of coming out of the year of good feelings, and we talked about the market revolution, but jackson when he was elected president, he had won the popular vote in 1824, but lost the presid. a and the electoral college and in the house of representatives and so he ran for office in a sense for four years in the name of democracy and popular democracy. jackson was the first populist president in american history, and he imagined himself as a jeffersonian in favor of the yeoman farmers and in favor of liberty, but he's quite a bit different than jefferson in jefferson thought he was a little wacky i think so jackson thought that it wasn't the house of representatives. there was the most democratic branch of the american government. it was actually the executive branch even though the exactly of is o

i want to welcome you to andrew jackson hermitage to our first history uncorked event of the season. i hasten to note that tonight's program is being by c-span, who will air it later this month. therefore this fall. therefore, please make sure your cell phones are silenced so we don't interrupt. dr. talk and you you leave memorial sized on c-span. but this evening are proud to have dr. timothy boyd to speak to us on the topic. consumes tremendous amounts of our thought, energy and. the title of his talk is we are what we eat food and national identity in american history eating and drinking are among the most mundane yet essential activities that humans undertake. i myself think of food constantly as well as being vital to sustaining life. the types of food we consume, how we prepare it and the social settings which we enjoy it are more just functional. they speak the social, cultural and political beliefs of the times. dr. boyd will use examples from the jacksonian era and from other periods american history to highlight ways in which the foods that americans served and have and ref

very few people know that that first piggyback operation took place in 1830. >> yeah. >> andrew jackson was the first sitting president to ride a train. he went out to -- elliott city, maryland by horseback. and when he started back he got to a crossing where the railroad cars, steam cars, because by then the steam locomotive was part of the train. he got on that steam car and rode seven or eight miles back. and he was astonished that the train was traveling so fast. nobody got hurt. >> yeah. i can imagine that that new technology back then was certainly impressive and also quite frightening to a lot of people that were not used to that speed of travel. speaking of the speed, before we get to the next item, we are looking here, ladies and gentlemen, at what are called in light cars, these cars are the baltimore museum in baltimore, maryland. you may have seen these before because they were, both of these specific cars were used in the movie, amistad, which feature john quincy adams traveling aboard these very cars. which leads me to another item, bob, the first railroad wreck in the uni

founding fathers like andrew jackson too. >> wanda: no, what did the course teach? it can't be that good if it's run by a bunch of missouri republicans. >> i mean, actually, i learned a lot. i learned missouri is one of the most important states in the union. did you know, without missouri, iowa would fall into arkansas? and it would just be chaos. just a big hole in the middle of the country. it is structurally important. all republican history is very interesting. a very interesting course. i learned that abraham lincoln was assassinated by hillary clinton. and this is -- i learned this, this is in the book, i also learned, harriet tubman -- you know harriet tubman? she was really a white man. you can't run from the truth! you can't run from the truth! [cheers and applause] i'm telling you what i learned! harriet dedman was really a white man. >> wanda: sounds like you learned a bunch of nonsense. >> it wasn't all nonsense. i learned that we really do need to keep pushing for crt, because we finally found a way for republicans to start giving more money to teacher

but the treaty, signed by the notoriously anti-native president andrew jackson and ratified by the u.s. senate, also contained a surprising provision, article seven, which says the cherokee, "shall be entitled to a delegate in the house of representatives of the united states whenever congress shall make provision for the same. the cherokee believe that "whenever" is now. joie: why are we dealing with this almost 200 years later? chuck: here's the way we see it. the president of the united states signed the treaty. his people crafted the treaty. the senate of the united states ratified the treaty. was it nearly two centuries ago? yes. still the law of the land. it's now incumbent on the house to take that final action, to fulfill the "when congress shall make provision for the same". >> it is stipulated that they shall be entitled to a delegate in the house of representatives. joie: this fall the cherokee got as close as they've ever been to seeing that promise fulfilled. for the first time ever, house members debated some issues still to be resolved, including how the delegate should

so bob, talk to us a little bit about andrew jackson and john quincy adams and who was first, and why there's a difference between them. >> well actually, john quincy adams was the first but was after he was president. he was returning to washington to be a member of the u.s. house of representatives and on december 30th, december 17th 1830, he got there and he traveled from massachusetts several ways. steamboat, road, when he got to baltimore the railroad had just started. cars would being pulled by horses. he had a horse and wagon that they put up on a flat car in hauled about seven miles from baltimore to the house. and then they lead his horse and wagon off the flak or anyone dressed the way on the road. definitely, it is the first piggyback operation that the railroad ever saw. piggyback means truck trailers placed on flat cars and when you get where they're going, they back up, picks them up, and take them off the flicker. very few people know that that first piggyback operation took place in 1830. jackson was the first sitting president who rode a train. he went up to ellicott

he resigned from the senate in february 1836 rather than vote to expunge the censure of andrew jackson. the whig party led by henry clay in the senate had passed a resolution of censure that took president jackson to task for moving the bank deposits that inaugurated the bank more in jackson's second term. when the democrats regained control of congress they passed what was known as the expunging resolution. but they aim to do was expunge the censure from the senate journal to literally get it out of the record of the senate journal. tyler was instructed to vote for the expunging resolution by the virginia legislature. he refused, he resigned in february 1836 out of principal. but he returned to politics yet again a year end a half later. he was elected to the virginia legislature for the third time. again we see a pattern of looking at a way to try to continue his political career by using the legislature as a springboard. he got himself nominated as vice president at the whigs at their convention their national convention they nominated william henry harrison. then of course we defea

he resigned from the senate in february 1836 rather than vote to expunge the censure of andrew jackson. the whig party led by henry clay in the senate had passed a resolution of censure that took president jackson to task for moving the bank deposits that inaugurated the bank more in jackson's second term. when the democrats regained control of congress they passed what was known as the expunging resolution. but they aim to do was expunge the censure from the senate journal to literally get it out of the record of the senate journal. tyler was instructed to vote for the expunging resolution by the virginia legislature. he refused, he resigned in february 1836 out of principal. but he returned to politics yet again a year end a half later. he was elected to the virginia legislature for the third time. again we see a pattern of looking at a way to try to continue his political career by using the legislature as a springboard. he got himself nominated as vice president at the whigs at their convention their national convention they nominated william henry harrison. then of course we defea

so bob, talk to us a little bit about andrew jackson, john quincy adams who was at first and there's a difference between them. cliques quincy adams was the first it was after he was president. to be a member of the u.s. house of representatives. he traveled to massachusetts we got to baltimore, the railroad had just started because to go by horses. he had where they put up on a flat car and hauled in about 7 miles from baltimore and then they lowered his horse and wagon off the flat car and with the rest of the way on the road. since the first piggyback operation that piggyback means placed on flat cars and when they get where they are going they fix them up and take them off the flat car. very few people know that first piggyback operation took place in 1840. it was the first sitting president to ride a train. he went to maryland by horseback and when he started back he had a crossing and they had railroad cars the call steam cars because the steam locomotive was part of the train. he got in the steam car and road several miles back. and he was astonished the train was traveling so

andrew jackson gets elected as a populist president and he says we are going to have a good governmentorm where whoever is elected gets to pick who works for government. that was thought as a good government reform. more accountability. but within a nano second it became the spoils system so whoever gave a contribution got a job so it became a payoff where public jobs became a property rights. and people try to get rid of it for decades and they cannot get rid of it. same thing happening now. until finally, garfield was assassinated by a disappointed job seeker and that was the scandal that propelled the pendleton act of 18 83 which created a merit system. it was not a system of tenure. there would be tests, the top takers on the test would be eligible to be picked for the job. jobs were not handed out as a property rights. they were not spoils anymore. then the next president came in and said, you can get permanent jobs. i am going to have all my friends get permanent jobs. so they blanketed in permanent jobs and then teddy roosevelt comes and says this is crazy. so then he got anothe

took of all things an encourage blizzard warnings racist -- encourage blizzard ent president andrew jackson for south carolina and mississippi for heaven's sakes and it was a crooked path to abolition. i have no more insight into the workings of devine providence than app ragaini hamlin con and i would say that whatever role was played in the destruction of slavery, it nevertheless helped lincoln's reelection and nothing at all inevitable about that. if lincoln lost, it would have meant the republicans would not have secured enough votes in the house of representatives to overcome democratic opposition to the 13th amendment. president elect george mccar linn putting votes in the house and as president, mcclain len as the fries of peace and the victory of the republican party is it possible to view the abolitionist of slavery to be abolitions. no one understood this as william garrison and no presidential election ever occurred at all in magnitude and far reaching consequences garrison wrote at returns of 1864 vote cameam in and with lincoln's victory declared the doom of rebellion in slaver

. - th greatest victories for thee people of america since andrew jackson. >> the election of donald trump to the white house shocks the country from coast-to-coast. >> whoo! >> i'm so proud to call him the - >> even people who areit pulling for donald trump are amazed that >> whoo!- >> it felt like this incredible period of uncertainty. >> who is that? d up? rudy. >> the morning after the 2016ers rudy giuliani and donald trump had just been elected president of the united states, you're feeling that there's tons ofar s. opportunity ahead. >> what's your role expected to be? >> i have no expectation. all i do is give my advice.shipt donald's been my friend for 28od years. all of my work on behalf of him has been out of great loyaltyatr and friendship to him. h is gets, 'cause he was the guy wh o stood by trump.u want stood by trump.u want >> whatever he said, bil tl clinton did much worse. >> his top pick is secretary of state. >> so, this is true? network you want to be secretary of you want to be secretary of state? and discuss with the re president-elect. >> rudy's developed a net

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dramatic music] this is probably one of the greatest victories for the people of america since andrew jacksonthe election of donald trump to the white house shocks the country from coast to coast. [all cheering] - i'm so proud to call him the president of the united states. - even people who are pulling for donald trump are amazed that he won. - whoo! - it felt like this incredible period of uncertainty. - who that is that? is that the mayor that showed up? rudy? - morning after the 2016 presidential election, if you're rudy giuliani, and donald trump had just been elected president of united states, you're feeling that there's tons of opportunity ahead. - what's your role expected to be? - i have no expectation. all i do is give my advice. donald's been my friend for 28 years. all of my work on behalf of him has been out of great loyalty and friendship to him. - whatever rudy wants, rudy gets, because he was the guy who stood by trump. - whatever he said, bill clinton did much worse. - his top pick is secretary of state. - so is this true? you want to be secretary of state? - [laughs] whatev

okay, who who who's for john quincy adams and who's for andrew jackson and so going back that far to 1824 is is really a long long, long period. so it's it's hard see polling be completely uprooted. it might be it might be i kind of doubt it am i my argument. no that it will not be completely uprooted and we'll still have election polls every election cycle midterms or presidential or even off year elections there's going to be polling a couple points, angela, than i yeah. sort of two point about people really closing their doors, not answering. i think that that is related. the trend of declining institution trust right across american society. and i think part of why poll bashing abated is because journalists are concerned about that. and similar to this idea that, poll bashing has become political. i journalists now looking at this poll bashing don't necessarily see just this sort of maybe friendly, maybe harsh between polls and journalists, but they see a broader, more concerning trend about institutional trust and they're less likely to engage in it because feel that it's actual

beautiful, my favorite city, i am here -- but to be able to still have a conversation about andrew jackson's. that has done so much harm to our people. and even the -- indians, the misappropriation there, because it is not our people. and so those are conversations that have not been said here in the city. and our people -- i will speak for our -- people, we built the french quarter, french market, and 99% of the people don't even know that in this city. and -- square where we are at in new orleans, that was some of our ceremonial rounds. we had -- ceremony and most of the people don't know that. and so it's to have those hard conversations about our people here in this country. i mean, this is our land. but people talk to us like it's the past. and in the school system, there is only 27 states in the united states that actually teach native history. and of the 27 states, 89% do not teach tribal -- to the 19 hundreds prior, prior to the 19 hundreds. -- but it's like, wait a minute. we are still here. we have a lot of tribes in the united states and in louisiana. there are five tribes -- 30 s