he is president of the institute for liberty as well as the host of the andrew langer show on. in baltimore all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it charles let me go to you first i mean one of the reasons why i wanted to do this program is the scandal around brian ross over at a.b.c. and of course that was a horrific mistake and. the perception is there that that wasn't very good journalism and it's true because he was getting ahead of himself so much so much of the media gets ahead of itself not in reporting information but to further. their agenda and in the process they're damaging journalism the standards of journalism of drop so badly in the western world right now and i would say and we can talk about this later in the program it's destroying institutions that we used to cherish go ahead charles you know i totally agree with that i'm actually i started out as an investment banker and about ten years ago i began exposing corporate fraud and then charity fraud and i took the scandal which is still