that's true of both rod rosenstein and andrew mccabe. but to answer your initial question, but the people he surrounded himself with, were sycophants. they were all on the same page. not that they are qualified to do what they are doing but people who believed in james comey and were willing to do anything, even undermined the rule of law and subvert the democratic process which is what they did. >> so you go forward in this process and donald trump is struggling to get the whole idea of collusion with russia behind him. must be bedeviling to have this come forward. so tell the story of the reemergence of bob mueller from my understanding after having conversations with people who would know, some would say he was in the hunt to be donald trump's director fbi after comey is let go. >> i wrote a column recently that poses the question did mueller lie to congress when he denied he was interviewing to be fbi director again with president trump in the oval office the very day before he become special counsel. documents show that rosenstein a

conversations that they could never pin down, that's going to be a tough hill for them to get over. >> andrew mccabeeone who's made the cases. thank you very much. appreciate it. all right. like i've said, and as andrew just said much more eloquently and probably accurately, it doesn't have to be about illegality to impeach. but what does our court see? are there crimes? how comparing -- how competitive is it -- how compelling? let's bring it into session. next. here's the thing about managing multiple clouds for your business. when you've got public clouds, and private clouds, and hybrid clouds- things can get a bit cloudy for you. but now, there's the dell technologies cloud, powered by vmware. a single hub for a consistent operating experience across all your clouds. that should clear things up. behr presents: tough as walls. that's some great paint. ♪ that's some great paint. behr ultra, ranked #1 in customer satisfaction with interior paints. great paint, new low price. starting at $29.98. exclusively at the home depot. outdated. the paperwork... the calling for everything. the searching for id

conversations that they could never pin down, that's going to be a tough hill for them to get over. >> andrew mccabeat the perspective of someone who's made the cases. thank you very much. appreciate it. all right. like i've said, and as andrew just said much more eloquently and probably accurately, it doesn't have to be about illegality to impeach. but what does our court see? are there crimes? how comparing -- how competitive is it -- how compelling? let's bring it into session. next. that's some great paint. ♪ that's some great paint. behr ultra, ranked #1 in customer satisfaction with interior paints. great paint, new low price. starting at $29.98. exclusively at the home depot. i was on the fence about changing from a manual to an electric toothbrush. but my hygienist said going electric could lead to way cleaner teeth. she said, get the one inspired by dentists, with a round brush head. go pro with oral-b. oral-b's gentle rounded brush head removes more plaque along the gum line. for cleaner teeth and healthier gums. and unlike sonicare, oral-b is the first electric toothbrush brand accepted b

deputy cia directors john mclaughlin and michael morel, and former deputy director of the fbi andrew mccabe. a.m., the at 10:00 house homeland security committee hears testimony on global terror threats with fbi director chris wray. at three clock p.m., we joined house rules committee as it considers an impeachment investigation resolution, laying the groundwork for how the inquiry will proceed. sunday, live at noon eastern on in-depth, princeton joinssity professor perry us to talk about african-american history and racial inequality. >> my mother came of age in alabama. youthher lived her through white nationalists society, and it has -- >> open officially white nationalists society? >> yes, and it has reared its head again. book, "ast recent letter to my sons." other books include "may we forever stand." join the conversation with phone calls, tweets, and facebook messages. afterwards,ern on the author of "it shouldn't be this hard to serve your country," recounts his time as the. secretary of veterans affairs in the cup administration. . he is interviewed by -- in the trump administrati

jon: andrew mccabe did face charges. he did lie to fbi agents, he lied to his boss. >> we have flown that for a year and there are no criminal charges. it's unclear what the criminal investigation by durham is about. jon: now we know at least a judge has said that the democrats who are investigating, want to impeach president trump should be allowed to see the unredacted portions of the muller report. it's likely that decision will be appealed. but if the intel commit eat gets that report unredacted. what are they going to see? >> there are about a thousand redactions in the mueller report. one surprising thing people might not appreciate is all of the redactions aren't necessarily going to damage president trump. one of the reactions i was able to unredact through reporting, it concerns an allegation that the russians intercepted a phone sex conversation of president clinton when he was in office potentially making him vulnerable to blackmail. there may be surprises in there. jon: tom mcclintock says the ruling on the m

>> i don't trust andrew mccabe.on't trust james comey, peter strzok, i don't trust john brennan. >> joining me now is one of those men he doesn't trust, andrew mccabe, the former deputy director of the fbi. thank you so much for joining us. >> sure. >> your reaction to what you just heard? >> i think it's important to put those comments in context of the revelation that "the wall street journal" made about the senator last friday, and that was, of course, that he, following a conversation with ambassador sondland, was so concerned about the president's linking the issues of military defense to ukraine, with -- and withholding that support with starting an investigation of his political rival, that the senator called the president to have a conversation about that. i tell you what, i share his concern about that. it's an incredibly horrible idea and one at the center of the impeachment inquiry. i think his comments yesterday are a pretty obvious attempt to work himself back into the president's good favor. it's just

. >> charging acting fbi director andrew mccabe.y november 15th, he will order the release of fbi records, authorizing the start of the russia investigation after taking over for fired fbi director james comey, fired for lack of candor. a lot of pieces in this. former dallas police officer found guilty of murder. a jury will hear new testimony to determine a sentence. amber guyger shot and killed john last year, she claimed she mistake his apartment for her own. his emotional of this elevated the verdict. the family describing the impact of his death. >> my life is not been the same. it has been a roller coaster. i can't sleep. i cannot eat. the most terrible time for me. i want my brother back. >> she faces 19 years in prison. and illegal immigrant deported 7 times pleads guilty to reentering the us for an eighth time. josÉ lopez appearing in court after being arrested in tennessee. he has five dui convictions with another pending. he faces two years in prison when sentenced next year. virginia police officer suspended for turning

the fbi, james comey and andrew mccabe didn't care. you know, the fisa warrant application has at the top verified information -- >> host: right. >> guest: yet they relied on the dossier which was unverified. now, that's -- last time i checked, lying to a judge is a fraud on the court. and as i explain in "witch hunt," it's also five other different potential felonies. when the inspector general report comes out, i expect it to be a damning indictment of the actions of these people especially with the deception to the fisa court. >> host: i worked for president george w. bush, i was involved with some of the meetings around selecting bob mueller to be the fbi director for the president. i went to bob mueller's swearing in on the, in the rose garden. i brought my mother -- >> guest: really? >> host: and one of her wonderful friends from wichita, mary lou tinker. i remember the meetings, i'm not saying anything inappropriate here, but i remember when they were looking for candidates, the one thing you heard over and over again about bob

the fbi and james comey and andrew mccabe didn't care, the fisa warrant application has verified information yet they relied on the dossier which was unverified, now, you know, that's -- last time i checked lying to a check is a fraud on the court and as i explain in witch hunt, it's also 5 other different potential felonies, when the inspector general report comes out i expected to be a damming indictment of the actions of these people especially with the deception it was fisa court. >> you can watch this entire program with gregg jarrett by visiting our website, booktv.org and after words tab at the top of the page. >> here is a look at some of the events book tv will be covering this week, on monday we will be at la miria book in jackson, mississippi, final year of the civil war, then on tuesday look for us at the center in new york city, eric cay washington's talk on james williams, chief porter of the grand central terminal in early 1900's who was face of african-american workforce and champion upward mobility on wednesday in new heaven, connecticut, yale lecturer barber will report on

days later, rosenstein calls andrew mccabe overcome andrew mccabe has become the acting fbi directorcomey was fired. i want to read a brief passage, they were talking about something relatively innocuous and a report as follows b& rosenstein gaze shifted toward the closed door to the room somewhere off in the distance. his eyes looked glassy, his voice wavering, his eyes tear up and he said he couldn't believe whato make it look as if it was his idea to fire true. the president had asked him to write the memo only after announcing he was firing comey. rosenstein was obviously struggling to keep his emotions in check. mccabe was shocked, Ãb they barely knew each other. he wanted to be compassionate. are you okay mccabe asked? no. are you getting any sleep? no. is your family okay? rosenstein said there were news trucks parked outside his house. his wife and family were upset. there was a pause. then rosenstein said, there is no one here i can talk to about this. there is no one i can trust. rosenstein seemed to be struggling to hold his emotions in check. after a pause he asked if mcc

you begin by saying, i, andrew mccabe -- of course you wouldn't say andrew mccabe your you would say your own names. don't get hung up on that. do solemnly swear that i will support and defend thetu constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. that is the phrase that gets me the most. everybody thinks about the first clause, the i will defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, which is strike an important and powerful, but it's the second clause that really defines what you do as an fbi agent. i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, to the same constitution, that binds us all to the principles of freedom,ri fairness, and justic. that is the source, that's what you become loyal to when you make that both. notably -- oath. notably, there is no, president in that oath. there is no a little cool party in that oath. there is no race, no gender, no debt shoe orientation. it is simply the pledge of loyalty to the document that binds us together as americans. it is

andrew mccabe then fired, right? excoriated. came very close to being charged by the justice department. we're still not sure if he won't be. a judge who is overseeing the case of andrew mccabe has been charged has demanded the justice department make their position on that since they've been threatening to charge him for months now. the russia counter intelligence agent in the fbi gets drumd ome out, excoriated, dragged through the mud. the top russia organized crime expert at the u.s. justice department gets excoriated, gets demoted, gets made famous and screamed at by the president. his name becomes an occasion for people gming people screaming at his rallies, right? screaming for blood. we have the c.i.a. director who was the head of central intelligence when the russia investigation began. president trump has not only gone after him as a traitor, tried to strip his security clearance as a punitive action because this is such a terrible person. the guy who was the director of national intelligence when the russia investigati

-- you wouldn't say andrew mccabe, you would say you own names. [laughter] just don't get hung up on that. do solemnly swear that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. that is the phrase that gets me the most. everybody thinks about the first clause, i will defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, which is striking, important, and powerful, but it is the second clause that really defines what you do as an fbi agent, i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, to that same constitution [indiscernible] freedom,inciples of fairness, and justice. , that is whaturce you become loyal to when you make that oath. , there is no president in that oath, there is no political party in that oath, there is no race, there is no gender, there is no sexual orientation. it is simply the pledge of loyalty to the document that binds us together as americans, the same oath that every public servant in the unit

andrew mccabe made these cases, okay? so he is an invaluable resource. thank you very much. l free to push back, andrew, on my insertion of importance. impeachment's political. this ain't political. i have not seen the nexus of campaign finance and potential greater criminality in this point fara, having to register as a federal agent this close in proximity of the president. flynn, remote, manafort a long time ago. here you have the two big sticks in someone that the president can't deny knowledge of efforts. how do you see it? >> i think you're exactly right, chris. it's not required to make the case for impeachment but it does make it a lot more convincing when you have people like giuliani who were inextricably intertwined. at the same time rudy giuliani is tied up with folks involved in criminal activity that looks like what we're talking about in the impeachment inquiry. >> forget about impeachment. let's say it goes somewhere, doesn't go anywhere. if you're running this case, sdny, and you're looking for potential criminality, what are the potential crimes involved wit

and that is true both rod rosenstein and andrew mccabe. but to made it through your initial question, people of comey surrounded himself with, where is i see, sick of fans, they are all the same page. not their terribly qualified to do with they are doing, but these are people who believe in james comey and we're wheeling to do anything even undermine the rule of law and subvert the democratic process which is what they did. you go forward in this process and donald trump is struggling to get this whole idea of collusion with russia behind h him. must be to have to keep this from being forwarded all of the stories every thing else, tell the story of the reemergence of bob muller for my understanding of having conversations with people who would know, was actually maybe some would see in the hunt, to be donald trump his director of the fbi after james comey is let go. >> i wrote a column recently because the question did muller live to congress when he denied that he was interviewing to be fbi director again with president trump in the oval

andrew mccabe spoke out today, you can kind of guess what he said. watch. >> why did the attorney general feel it is necessary to personally interact with those folks and make this introduction to prosecutor durham, and what is taking place in those conversations? what sort of assistance or objectives is he actually advocating for here? >> laura: we know they are there to hear the deposition of the man we discussed in the "angle," joseph mifsud, who sparked the russia hoax early on. that is why they were there, and they don't want them to find out any more about mifsud are what he did or how he was complicit. they don't want that coming out. speak with rich coming from a cave, we just got a memo from the fbi, laura, documenting that they were talking about wearing a wire on the president of the united states in the oval office, and talking about the 25th amendment to overthrowo hear him complain about the attorney general beginning to ask questions about the genesis of that illicit investigation, is just rich. even as he faces potential criminal inve

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more portly i don't think andrew mccabe even knows what the inspector general knows. he hasn't seen all the evidence. he hasn't talked all the witnesses. i think under mccain probably has a very narrow self-serving view of the world in the way tht the inspector general does not. he has more information at his disposal. >> harris: inspector general horowitz is giving an update on the forthcoming pfizer report. do we need a fisa court anymore? do we need a secret court? our guest bill mcgurn said i'm not sure if we need the court anymore. >> my take on it i think you need some sort of independent check, i don't think any of us would want a system in which any fbi agent, any doj employee could simply obtain wiretaps and conduct surveillance. you need some sort of independent party, whether it's a judge, someone else, to look at it and make sure the evidence is there. can it be reformed? absolutely. are there problems with the fisa system as it currently exists? absolutely. >> harris: should it be secret? >> i think it should be secret to the extent that it needs to be se

breakingng news tonight, andrew mccabe tonight has dropped his wrongful employment termination lawsuitgainst the department of justice. we'll have more on that in our next block, but tonight the durham probe is not the only investigation we are tracking. the horowitz report into fisa abuse is finished. and according to the inspector general, it'll be released to the public with only minor redactions. folks, that's brand-new news, we had not heard that before. we thought there would be two different reports. congressman john ratcliffe is saying publicly that the horwitz saying publicly that the horowitz report and the durham probe are connected. watch this. >> i think these two things are related. the work done by michael horowitz could result in criminal referrals, even though the report hasn't been released. regardless, john durham had to let michael horowitz finish this work. i think, when people read the impending report, it'll be very clear why the durham investigation has now moved to t criminal probe, which will allow him to impanel a grand jury and bring in witnesses and ultimat

thank you very much, andrew mccabe and jim baker, appreciate it. important night to have you. >> that he cannk, chris. >> those are the facts we see them from mr. taylor. what is the argument for the president? you see me making it to these two big shot investigators. we'll see it made to you bay member of congress. how do you see that nothing wrong happened here? how do you see this as not just a question of consequence? what is the best defense? next. (amber jagger) if we don't give students from an underserved background the technology that they need in school, they're not going to be competitive in the workforce that's waiting for them. since verizon innovative learning, students have hardware, connectivity, and quality curriculum. the jobs of tomorrow will involve technology. now students are truly hopeful for what they may achieve. performance comes in lots of flavors. ♪ (dramatic orchestra) there's the amped-up, over-tuned, feeding-frenzy-of sheet-metal-kind. and then there's performance that just leaves you feeling better as a result. that'

deputy cia directors john mclaughlin and michael morel, and former deputy director of the fbi, andrew mccabe. a.m., the at 10:00 house homeland security committee hears testimony on global terror threats with fbi director chris ray. at 3:00 p.m., we join the house rules committee as it considers an impeachment investigation revolution -- investigation resolution, laying the groundwork for how it will proceed. house democrats announced that lower drug prices act, has been renamed in memory of representative elijah cummings. two congresspeople spoke about elijah cummings's efforts to lower costs. they also spoke about the impeachment inquiry. >> good morning, everyone. this week, the house democrats will continue our effort to lower health care costs on behalf of the american people with the focus on driving down the high cost of lifesaving prescription drugs. we continue to move forward with the effort around hr-3, which has been appropriately renamed in honor of elijah eugene cummings. this was one of the issues that was of utmost important to cummings and the people he was so privileged to

andrew mccabe and jim baker here to discuss what we do need. andrew, fact significance here.ssuming this guy can't be blown up as illegitimate or a partisan or something like that, relevance. >> incredibly relevant. we are still working with the fundamental, the underlying problem here is the allegation that the president utilized his authority to conduct foreign relations for his own personal political benefit. every single one of the witnesses that we've heard from so far confirms that underlying allegation. >> i have a duty to investigate corruption. it t it's the only reason i did it and it's just his son. >> i have yet to hear a single person who accepts that reason. >> you just heard from the congressman. >> with all due respect, i don't think he was on the phone call or knows the facts. this is another well-placed position who heard not just the phone call in question but the prior one on the 21st. it's part of his duty to listen to these conversations from the sit room with his colleagues in these instances. >> we may have an answer now which is that earlier call, wha

the fbi james comey and andrew mccabe did not care.plication has at the top verified information. if they relied on the dossier which was unverified. the last time i checked lying to a judge was against the law and now there's five additional felonies i expect with the deception of the fisa court. >> i worked for president george w. bush. i was involved with some of the meetings about bob mueller and the fbi director. i went to bob mueller so i remember the meetings so one thing i heard over and over again during the fbi director is that he proved essentially the perfect candidate to be the fbi director. was it true then? if it was or wasn't how did the fbi get on this most dangerous of the rogue path? did it start before mueller? is it really comey obama problem? what happened? >> it started before muelle mueller, but then it escalated after. >> using any power they could because they are the good guys they have the white hats so they are truly the elites. >> i see it begun before mueller because right after he was appointed fbi direc

we've got the perfect guests to talk this through, andrew mccabe and jim baker.along. it's just my experience, 20 years, no facts. you go after the person when you don't have the facts that's not new. the idea of. a.g. saying, jim, i want to make sure this investigation was on the up and up, i think there was spying done on the president, i'm going to the foreign powers who are allies and looking for help. what's the plus/minus on that? >> well, the plus is, look, and i've said this before and i've offered to cooperate with the attorney general and john durnan investigation they're doing right now. if some number of the american people have a question about the origin of the investigation, fine, investigate it. there's nothing they're going to find in my opinion. at least i know what was happening at the fbi and we weren't doing anything improper, in my opinion. so investigate. the down side, the negative, is that this will put a chill -- it already has, i think, puts a chill through the law enforcement and intelligence agencies of the united states because peopl

andrew mccabe, jim baker, fbi vets are here.ndrew, what do you see in that statement that ends the analysis for you? >> well, chris, as you mentioned, they don't need proof of a quid pro quo. we are not trying to show the elements of an offense here. it's not a legal case, but the hurdle that the democrats have to get over here is presenting a convincing case, a convincing argument about the malfeasance and the bad acts that the president and his supporters were engaged in. taylor helps them enormously. his statement is incredibly detailed. it's got dates. it's got phone calmls. >> what else do they need? >> it's hard to imagine what else they need. every witness they have had now has kind of outdone the witness before, but taylor takes them to a new level, and he obliterates a lot of the defenses we have seen coming from the republicans about, well, there was no real quid pro quo and that sort of thing. taylor eviscerates those defenses. >> would you ask for an indictment on these facts if they were delivered to you? >> confide

former acting fbi director andrew mccabe discusses his career, firing from the fbi, and the origins of the russian investigation. he was interviewed by investigative journalist carl bernstein at a conference hosted by the new school in new york city. this is one hour and 20 minutes. [applause] >> thank you. thank you so much for that warm welcome. good evening, ladies and gentlemen and distinguished guests, students

announcer: former acting fbi director andrew mccabe discussed his career, his firing from the fbi and the origins of the russia investigation. he was interviewed by investigative journalist carl bernstein at a conference hosted by the new school in new york city. this is one hour and 20 minutes. [applause] >> thank you. thank you so much for that warm welcome. good evening, ladies and gentlemen and distinguished guests, students, and all members of the new school community. mr. mccabe: thank you for inviting me to speak to you here tonight. it is truly an honor to a address a group as engaged and quite frankly has large and as terrifying as hello you are now, but to do it on the hunddt

here with me now is one of the people who could be a target of this, andrew mccabe. he was deputy director of the fbi during this time. he then ran the fbi after james comey was fired by president trump. thanks for taking the time this morning. >> sure. >> we don't yet know the bounds of this, and it's cnn's reporting that it could be that they've discovered evidence of something criminal central to the investigation or possibly tangential to it, for instance, false statements connected to it or possibly leaking information, so let's stipulate that. but as you know, john durham, who's leading the investigation, respected by democrats and republicans. he led the cia interrogations investigation. >> he did. >> is it your concern that that investigation is now targeting you and your work? >> no. here's my concern, jim. so, if the investigation is conducted with integrity, with impartiality, if there aren't preconceived theories or judgments brought into it, then i have no concerns about it whatsoever, whether it's an internal investigation or conducted as a criminal pro

andrew mccabe is with us. what's the difference? the difference is it's highly unlikely that anyone who refuses to comply with a congressional subpoena is going to be locked up and hauled off to jail. that's basically the difference between the two. >> and that's why it's a better gamble for this president. however, could wind up being the basis for an article of impeachment for him. but his play is to delay this and below it up into something else and that takes us to the big question. they like this and it's a good political tactic, but i think with time, it will weather. you don't have a big enough crime, andrew. you don't have a big enough crime to advance impeachment and that's the standard, high crime. your take? >> i'm not so sure that's true, chris. i think that we have a very, very serious allegation in front of the president. it hasn't changed over the course of this scandal so far, right, it is that the president used his powers of foreign diplomacy for his own benefit by soliciting dirt on his campaign rival. with every

days later rosenstein calls andrew mccabe over.abe has become the acting fbi director since comey was fired. i want to read a brief passage. they were talking about something relatively innocuous. i report as follows b& rosenstein's gaze shifted toward the closed door to the room somewhere off in the distance. his eyes looked brassy. his voice wavering, his eyes teared up he said he couldn't believe what was happening. the white house was trying to make it look as if it was his idea to fire comey. that wasn't true. the president had asked him to write the memo only after announcing he was firing comey. rosenstein was obviously struggling to keep his emotions in check. mccabe was shocked, rosenstein was confiding in him, essentially calling the president a liar. they barely knew each other but he wanted to be compassionate. are you okay, mccabe asked? no. are you getting any sleep? no. is your family okay? rosenstein said they were news trucks parked outside his house, his wife and family were upset. there was a pause and then rosen

judge jeanine: what's interest being this, the inspector general referred andrew mccabe one year and six months ago to the department of justice. now the new york types is saying rudy giuliani is under investigation for lobbying effort as it relates to the ukraine. within minutes after we hear ukraine, in light of what's going on with the bidens. but what do you know about those two men who have been just arrested who allegedly were working with rudy giuliani. they said they had dinner with you at the white house. president trump: i don't know who they are. maybe i met them or took pictures with them because i saw a picture of me with them and others. but i take pictures with a lot of people. i don't know who they are, jeanine. you will have to figure that one out for yourself, i guess. i know they are donors. they made political donations to a lot of different people. a lot of politicians over the years so they are donors. but i have thousands and thousands of donors. judge jeanine: this marie yovanovich testified behind closed doors. she defied state department orders and attended

speakers include former cia , former john brennan cia directors, and andrew mccabe. en c-span3 at 10:00 a.m., the house homeland security committee hears testimony on global terror threats with fbi director christopher wray. and at 3:00 p.m., we join the house rules committee as it considers an impeachment investigation resolution, laying the groundwork for how the inquiry will proceed. next, a discussion on developing an effective universal flu vaccine. speakers include dr. anthony fauci, director of the institute of allergy and infectious

goes out and hires andrew mccabe if you have indicted who was fired for a lot. lying under oath 3 times about leaking to the press it's a quid pro quo what do you think mccabe was leaking to i'm going to get c.n.n. because they hired him as a big you giving us everson for mention that turned out to be false anyway i wonder would make cable look like when he's on set in an orange jumpsuit maybe i'm getting ahead of my skis here ok tom i mean it's can't continue with this here no no no go arrest him while he's on so that would i wish him all these odds that i would be the 1st time and if i if i got wind of the 1st time i'd watch the end live for years ok send me a tweet ok if you hear anything ok let me go to tom here i mean state t.v. this is what joe said but tom in many ways in the same vein that we're talking about it's kind of like deep state t.v. to me because what they what they want to do is they want to form the narrative and you know outlets like c.n.n. and m.s.n. b.c. are more than happy to do their work for them they've been doing it a long time anyway

discussing with senior fbi officials the possibility of wearing a wire with former acting fbi director andrew mccabe and perhaps they planned to invoke the 25th amendment against president trump. adam schiff continues to deny reports his office was in direct contact with the whistleblower before the complaints was filed. earlier this week former national security council chief fred fleitz predicted schiff and his staff knew in advance. cnn's chris cuomo, well, he wanted to talk about it. >> i saw this and i thought it was unusual, not just that it was extremely well written by the had legal references and foot notes. but i compared that with the fact adam schiff was talking about the subject matter of this complaint throughout the month of august. >> you don't know any of that. you are raising it as questions. that is meaningless until you can put some meat on the bones. lou: it wasn't meaningless, it was prescient. after the "new york times" reported adam schiff and his staff knew of the so-called whistleblower report days before it was fired, fleitz posted this to cuomo. quote you were hard on me

lou: the participation of andrew mccabe in the matter.said that he didn't think the general was lying. how soon do you think you will have resolution for the general here? >> i think we'll have a good strong sense of direction before the end of the year and it might be over by then. i would strongly encourage the department of justice to step up and do the right thing and agree to dismiss this case against him because it's an abomination of justice. lou: it's a new justice department, if you will, headed up by william barr who has been even handed in trying to bring balance and fairness to a sullied justice department and certainly sullied fbi. >> it is. in our 160-page filing which the government says is devoid of facts or law, i think there are more than enough reasons for the justice department to step in now and dismiss the case. lou: sit any powell, thanks so much. on wall street, the dow down 3. the nasdaq fell 49. volume on the big board, still modest trading. crude oil down a half%. gold and silver remain flat. tesla third quarter