andrew mccabe joins us, cnn's senior law enforcement analyst. eached. andrew, first of all, what does this mean for you and your family? >> oh, my gosh. anderson, i -- i can't tell you what this has been like, going through, what this whole vindictive campaign has put my wife through, my children, my parents. so to have a settlement of this lawsuit and one that so clearly indicates this should never have happened, it is both an incredible relief, it's satisfying, but it's also, you know, it's also kind of sad, i mean, like, this should never have happened. my family should never have had to go through this. >> i hadn't realized, i think it was on a friday night, you had a meal with your family, retirement celebration with your family, because you were retiring the next day and they fired you right before that, consciously, you know, vindictively. what was it like to have the former president, who doesn't know you, i mean, he has no idea anything about you, just pick you out of, you know, obscurity, essentially, in terms of his knowledge of you, a

the deputy director of the fbi was andrew mccabe.mccabe ascended and became the director. andrew mccabe was one of the fbi officials who opened the counterintelligence investigation into ties between the trump campaign and russia while russia intervened to help trump. trump frequently railed against andrew mccabe as if he were some kind of democratic operative or deep state operative or something out to get him. in a move of almost unbelievable spitefulness trump's justice department under pressure from trump fired mccabe in 2018 literally hours before he was scheduled to retire. the importance of that, the material importance of that was by firing him short of his retirement date, hours short of his retirement date, that deprived andrew mccabe of the pension he had earned in his decades of service at the fbi. well, today a settlement in the lawsuit that andrew mccabe filed against the u.s. justice department. a settlement, a lawsuit in which he alleged he was fired for political reasons. and as obvious as it was that he was fired fo

because boy did andrew mccabe win this thing.benefits that were coming to, him he will get about $200,000 in missed pension payments, the department of justice will expunged any mention of his firing from fbi personnel records. in effect he will be and fired. he will even receive the traditional fbi retirement cough links, which could not have been the most important thing about the way he was snarkily and snidely fired, by a president who is out to smear the fbi, to save his own skin, still. there will be some measure of satisfaction i imagine when those cuff links arrive, in a cute little box. settlements a night in the andrew mccabe case, better late than never right. stay with us. lat than never right stay with us as someone who resembles someone else... i appreciate that liberty mutual knows everyone's unique. that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. [ nautical horn blows ] i mean just because you look like someone else doesn't mean you eat off the floor, or yell at the vacuum, or need

. >>> and a major victory tonight for andrew mccabe. the former fbi deputy director fired by president trump for one of his political vendettas, his firing is reversed and he gets to keep his pension. >>> joining hame now is cnn medical analyst jonathan reiner from george washington university hospital. also presidential historian douglas brinkley. gentlemen, good evening. doctor, of course i'm going to start with you. let's discuss the former president and his hospitalization in california tonight. urinary tract infection spreading to his bloodstream. can you tell us about his condition and how dangerous this is? >> good evening, don. it's been reported that he's doing well and his team is considering switching him from intravenous antibiotics to oral antibiotics perhaps as early as tomorrow. so sepsis is an infection that has spread to the blood. a lot of things can do it. it's much more common as we get older and it's very common to have the urinary tract as a source. commonly the kidneys or the bladder. sometimes there's no underlyi

nick, something that was remarkable about andrew mccabe's treatment was that it came after jim comey'sn with firing mccabe the night before his retirement really did, as we said, sort of rank at the top of the political revenge stunts that donald trump managed to pull off. >> that's right, nicole, and look, it happened in the open. that was what was so, you know, amazing about it at the time. the president tweeted, like, h ha, it's time to get rid of this guy before his 90 days come and then it happened. it was all very obvious and it sent a flare through the bureaucracy, through the fbi, that this guy will come after you if you cross him and don't bend to his will. i think the final irony for me, always, with andy mccabe is that his alleged offense was to be involved in a leak of a story about hillary clinton's private email server, which of course was a story that trump loved to talk about on the campaign trail in 2016. somehow, he was out there defending hillary clinton's honor by having this guy canned. it never added up. it was always very obvious and the fact that it was obvious

. >>> and a major victory tonight for andrew mccabe. the former fbi deputy director fired by the former president during one of his political vendettas, mccabe's dismissal reversed, and he gets to keep his pension. he joins me in a few moments to talk about this big development. you don't want to miss that. >>> i want to get right to our breaking news tonight, and that's about the former president, bill clinton, hospitalized in california. joining me now is cnn medical analyst dr. jonathan reiner. he's the director of the card yak catheterization program at george washington university hospital, also presidential historian douglas brinkley. doctor, i'm going to start with you. let's discuss the former president and his hospitalization in california tonight. urinary tract infection spreading to his bloodstream. can you tell us about his condition and how dangerous this is? >> good evening, don. it's been reported that he's doing well, and his team is considering switching him from intravenous antibiotics to oral antibiotics perhaps as ea

then he tried to get andrew mccabe fired for the russia investigation as well. trump demanded publicly that not only doj needed to fire mccabe, but they needed to do so hours, literally hours, before he would otherwise qualify for his full pension in recognition of his decades of service at the fbi. and it turns out the justice department appears to have kind of broken all the rules when they caved to trump's pressure on that and did what he said, did what he demanded. the justice department at least concluded that they were going to lose the lawsuit that andrew mccabe brought against them over his improper firing. well, earlier this month the justice department decided they would settle that lawsuit with andrew mccabe. they gave him back his badge. they gave him back his pension. they even paid his attorneys' fees. the biden administration has plenty on its plate, but it turns out it's like one of those tv dinner-style subdivided plates, or like the kind of plate you get in the hospital, you know? it turns out there is a whole segmented portion of what's allowed

with andrew mccabe, they gave him back his badge, they gave him back his pension, they even paid his attorneys fees, the biden administration's plan and its play. it turns out it's like one of those tv dinner style sub divided plates. or like the kind of play it at the hospital. turns out, there's a whole kindest segmented portion about what's allowed on their plate. a big portion of what they have to deal with in any one day, is cleaning up with still stuck, there was still stuck there in wrong there. from the previous administration. and now tonight, wall street journal was first to break this remarkable story, which nbc news assistance confirms. which is a very very big deal. here's the lead in the wall street journal tonight quote. the biden administration is in talks to offer immigrant families that were separated during the trump administration around $450,000 a person in compensation. as several agencies work to resolve lawsuits filed on behalf of parents and children who say the government subjected them to lasting psychological trauma. the u.s. government, forcibly taking li

former fbi director andrew mccabe.f the action of the special counsel after two years of investigating has found essentially not must, at least not yet? >> that is absolutely right. there is really very little here relevant to what he supposedly was hired to investigate. the subpoenas really hold the fbi more in the position of victim rather than the subject of an investigation. >> laura: the spin never ends. remember and he is always going to play the victim, though. the fbi, intel agencies, media and dishonest democrats, they did incalculable harm to the presidency and the people's faith in these institutions and none of the guilty parties and the saga, not the press or the intel community, have learned anything over the last two years. since we discovered to be russia probe was a fraud from the outset, it went on to targeting innocent americans while dismissing biden's conflicts of interest on china and his general incompetence at managing the affairs of our nation. it's a complete and ongoing disservice to the hard

joining me now to discuss cnn senior law enforcement analyst and the former fbi deputy director andrew mccabeod evening, sir. appreciate you joining. the committee is making it clear tonight that they are not messing around. what message are they sending? >> well, don, that is by far the most important thing that they're doing right now, which is sending a very clear message to all of the other potential witnesses that might be subpoenaed to come before the committee. i think the committee knows that this saga with bannon could very well drag out for a long time and at the end of the saga, it's possible that if he's -- if the justice department decides to proceed with the referral and he is charged and he goes to trial and he is convicted and he is sentenced to some period of time, he could just serve that sentence and never provide any information to the committee. so they know that. but what they want to be clear to every other witness is that unless you want to get entangled in a criminal prosecution, you better full well comply with this lawful subpoena. >> okay. let's good through the pr

senator grassley: the nonpartisan justice department inspector general established that andrew mccabe lied under oath to f.b.i. investigators. he lied under oath to the justice department inspector general. it should be noted that mb cake leaked government -- mb kab -- mccabe leaked government documents. under your leadership instead of punishing him, the department reinstated his retirement, expunged his records as part of the settlement. he will reportedly receive $200,000 in retirement back pay and his attorney will reportedly receive $500,000 in legal fees. so it seems to me that's beyond incredible. so general garland, did you authorize the mccabe settlement, and if not, who did? a.g. garland: it was the recommendation of the career lawyers litigating that case based on their prospects of success in the case. the case did not involve the issues about lying. about lying. it involved the claim that he was not given the amount of time necessary to respond to it was about he was not given time to respond to allegations. litigators concluded they needed to settle the case of the the l

joining me no w to discuss, andrew mccabe, former deputy director at the fbi.to have you on this morning. >> thank you, jim. >> so a representative for deripaska released a statement saying these searches related to a u.s. sanctions investigation as opposed to looking back at the mueller investigation regarding election interference in 2016. based on your reading of this, does that seem accurate to you? >> well, it is the -- i think it is the most likely explanation. however, i would point out that there is really no way to separate the sanctions from the mueller investigation. you'll recall that in april of 2018, deripaska was sanctioned along with about six other oligarchs and several government officials because of their involvement in mettlie meddling presidential election. >> are there still -- the mueller investigation went on for a number of years, investigating those central claims, right, one, how russia interfered but was there any involvement of trump campaign officials and except for a couple instances, for instance, paul manafort sharing internal c

attorney preet bharara and andrew mccabe. fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump." andrew, john eastman was clearly influential in the fight to try to overturn the presidential election. what could he reveal to the select committee investigators? >> boy, wolf, there are all kinds of details and facts that i would be interested as an investigator in getting from mr. eastman. he is someone who appeared at a number of different meetings or events that we know are instrumental to the attack that took place on january 6th. he's in the war room. he's in the oval office meeting with the president and the vice president. he shows up at the rally and delivers a speech. so there are all kinds of very de detailed facts. what sort of assignments may he have been given. all sorts of things. >> would eastman have any legal grounds to fight a subpoena if the subpoena comes forward? >> i don't think so. but remember that this is an individual who is associated with the former president who, for whom is doesn't matter if there's a

joining us for that is cnn senior law enforcement analyst and former fbi deputy director, andrew mccabe. also, frances kobilinsky. i am wondering your initial reaction to -- to what you heard from the coroner? >> well, i think we were waiting for the cause of death and, you know, he did say that this was due to strangulation. i didn't know at first what that meant because there are three different kinds of strangulation. there -- there's hanging. there's ligature strangulation and manual strangulation. and obviously, now we know it's manual strangulation which is a very close-in way of killing somebody. it's not like shooting somebody from a distance. this is very personal, and it does tell a story about anger and hostility. um, and just an attack on another person. so, it tells us a lot. >> andrew, when you -- when you hear that cause of death -- manual strangulation, throttling -- is that enough to conclude that this was murder? because we already knew this case was a homicide. but homicide doesn't automatically mean murder. does the autopsy settle that question at this point? >> well

we're joined by andrew mccabe.ement analyst and author of the book, the threat. how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump. andrew, how differently do you think january 6th would have gone if all available intelligence was properly disseminated in advance, which this whistleblower claims simply did not happen? >> well, wolf, i think that understanding the intelligence from every angle, right, what intelligence did the agencies collect? how did they share it with each other and what decisions did they make? what assessments did they make as a result of that, that is the key to not only understanding january 6th, but making sure this sort of failure doesn't happen again. if the agencies like dhs and the fbi and the capitol police hope to get better at what they do, and that should be the goal here, right, to be better at protecting capitol and pregn protecting the country, they will not be able to do that until they peel through how the intelligence was handled. >> this whistleblower's account help y

and cnn senior analyst and former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. so professor kobilinsky, what are the next steps in trying to identify whatever remains have been found? we know investigators removed evidence from the laundrie home last month to assist in dna matching. what happens now? >> well, that is the very first step in this process. first of all, dental records can be looked at. x-rays of bone fractures if he had any, that would be looked at. fingerprints would be helpful if there were fingerprints still on the body. decomposition can do quite a number on different body parts. but obviously dna is the way to go. and the fbi is now using something called rapid dna. they can literally get a result in a matter of a few hours, so it's a great technology. it's usually not used in this kind of a case. but it can be. so, i suspect they will have an identification very quickly. of course, we really need to know cause of death, manner of death, and time of death. cause of death here is very important. remember, the body was submerged and that means t

andrew mccabe, as usual, thank you very much. >>> just ahead, i will talk to a key senate democrat andesident biden as he struggles to unite his party around his agenda. >>> plus, north korea firing a suspected submarine launch ballistic missile. we have details of kim jong un's latest provocation. that's coming up. move to sofi and feel what it's like to get your money right. ♪ move your high-interest debt to a sofi personal loan. you could save with low rates and no fees. earn $10 just for viewing your rate and get your money right. ♪ my plaque psoriasis... ...the itching ...the burning. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. my psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen... painful. emerge tremfyant™. with tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... ...can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. tremfya® is the only medication of its kind also approved for adults with active psoriatic arthritis. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you ha

. >> i want to get a few former v investigators, andrew cajon and andrew mccabe. andrew, how big a development is this to this investigation? >> ana, it could be very big. this is kind of the break that i think many, many people have been waiting for. but there is still a lot left to be determined. we don't know exactly what they've found or what nave come across, but traces of brian laundrie is not the same thing as brian laundrie. so i think there is a lot of investigation to go here, some recovery of -- forensic recovery of relevant evidence. if they don't find brian or his remains, it will certainly put the search for him into overdrive as it will allow them to really focus on a particular area. >> everyone stay with me. we have randi kaye who just arrived on scene where this search continues, where these articles were found. randi, what are you seeing and what more are you learning there? >> reporter: ana, we're just at the entrance to the makayachi creek. this is where the family mustang had been found and tagged as an abandoned car and the laundrie family dr

andrew mccabe's pension, filing a lawsuit after he was fired by donald trump hours before his retirement taking his pension away. trump called his firing a great day for democracy at the time as mccabe was responsible for requesting fbi surveillance of the 2016 presidential campaign. the doj agreed to restore full benefits with back pay. jillian: the supreme court commission will meet to discuss reforming the nation's highest court, the 36 number delegation releasing its first report suggesting a rotation of justices instead. the report comes after democrats called for an expansion following the court's conservative majority. the white house noting the release of materials are an assessment and not a recommendation as the commission plans to submit a final report to the president mid november. let's go to the nfl. eagles comeback falls short as tom brady and the books drop away with a win on thursday night football. >> stealing the ball to the open guys, got all day, he got a touchdown. jillian: that was three. >> i will pause. >> brady throwing for two touchdowns leading the 20-22 victo

joining us now, forensic pathologist and deputy director, andrew mccabe. s through the fbi's role in identifying these remains as brian laundrie? what resources did the fbi devote to this effort? >> well, wolf, there's no question that this is a case that's been given all the resources it could possibly need. in terms of this current it ration over the last 24 hours or so, i'm quite sure that the local medical examiner was the person who conducted the exam of the remains, but the fbi can be very helpful in terms of getting the either dna samples or dental records and those sorts of things to the medical examiner for the purpose of comparing with the sample, the evidence they recover on the scene. so there's also a coordination piece here between the investigation that's still ongoing out in wyoming. let's not forget that we have a homicide that was committed in a national park. so federal land in wyoming. and i'm quite sure the fbi's still actively engaged in trying to figure out exactly who killed gabby petito. >> the fbi used dental records to identify la

rewarding that actors because we just learned the administration restored former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe's pension in a settlement deal that removed the case of fbi records, any references to having been fired. we had this marine, lieutenant colonel scheller. >> reporting mccabe who took the position of the fbi and used that position to go after political candidate donald trump is rewarded with his job back but you have the department of justice with merrick garland saying if you are a mom, angry about what they are teaching your kids at school or mandating them to be vaccinated. of your irate and upset and raise your voice you might be a domestic terrorist. former president george bush comparing moms at these rallies and school board meetings to domestic terrorists. it is awful but you need to be aware your government can listen to every phone call, discover everything about you, yank you off a plane, prevent you flying and that is not the america i to live in and we need to push back. laura: thank you for leading on this again and we want you that the left was going to come for the found

wolfowitz or even tried it out, former fbi director andrew mccabe. >> is the action of a special counsel after two years of investigating has found essentially not much, at least not yet? >> that is absolutely right. there's very little here relevant to what he supposedly was hired to investigate. the recent indictment and the subpoenas hold the fbi more in the position of victim rather than subject of an investigation. >> the spin never ends. and he is always going to play the victim. the fbi, intel agencies, the media and dishonest democrats did incalculably on to the office of the presidency of people's faith in the institutions and none of the guilty parties, not the press, the doj really into community have learned anything over the last few years. since we discovered that the russia probe was a fraud from the outset they moved on to targeting innocent americans who oppose the biden agenda while dismissing biden's conflict of interest on china and general incompetence in many affairs of our nation. it is the complete and ongoing disservice to the hard-working people of america who d

all know z]at's not correctheld to account but it becomes a big deal when we see someone like andrew mccabe you found researched, walked through the interviews and found he clearly lied and was fired and pensions is recovered and back pay is being paid back tom and there's a inspector general report that came out saying this pergon it. what we can do is bring you testimonial authority and to get recommendations is of great benefit to just restoring trust into the government and theprocess. i'll drill down on a couple of these. mr. horowitz, you've been through investigations before that crossed jurisdiction. you walked throun simpson and jonathan winter a state department issue where you're over on the department of justice and they retire and make it harder. can we talk through when you get in an investigation that may include people from quote unquote, jurisdictions from other agencies and then when they retire how hard it is to get tcnial evidence? mr. horowitz: very hard and if the employee were at the state department i'd reach out to the state i.g. and they'd facilitate my being able

jillian: restoring former fbi director andrew mccabe's pension, he was fired by donald trump just hours before his retirement. trump, firing a, quote, great day for democracy. at the time as mccabe was responsible for requesting surveillance of trump's presidential campaign but he will begin receiving his benefits with back pay. president biden's commission will meet to discuss reforming the nation's highest court. the 36 member delegation releasing its first report where it opposes packing the court. they suggest a rotation of justices instead. the report comes after democrats call for an expansion following the court's conservative majority. the white house noting the materials are an assessment is not a recommendation. they will submit a final report in mid-november. todd: we will see. throwing first postseason series between the dodgers and giants on the west coast and controversial call. >> no balls, two strikes, florez, did he go? he did in the cave in, a swinging strike they. todd: take a look, we did not break the plate of the goal line. with two outs, two strikes and it was a s

. >>> we're watching andrew mccabe. he's the former deputy fbi director. the fbi director after trump fired the fbi director. a court decided mccabe should get his retirement back. trump fired mccabe only moments before he was to retire. >> thank you. >>> look, i don't like to remind everyone this morning, but we all know the turn out of last night's game. giants' fans are feeling rather blue this morning, after a bad call at a bad time. the bad call will have fans wondering, what if forever. many of the fans out right mad. the scene outside the stadium got tense and violent in some cases. this is video from a hotel across the street aft will freee the video for you at this point, because our crew says a giants' fan kicked a dodgers fan in the head. that video later shows somebody in handcuffs, but police are not giving up information about that. we'll keep monitoring that. >>> the bay area team is helping to fight climate change in a eip designed to determine healthy air quality in specific locations. it compares indoor and outdoor air quality sensors. ca

andrew mccabe who was fired cruelly to the glee of the former president just hours before his retirement about it for the first time in a few moments. we begin though tonight in a similar vein with a picture of contempt in many forms. contempt for congress and the responsibility we granted to investigate matters to national importance. contempt for the law and contempt for democracy, which took a blow when the building you see there was attacked. we got another reminder of it late today. video of the

let's discuss, andrew mccabe, he is a cnn senior law enforcement analyst and author of the book "the bi protects america in the age of terror and trump." andrew, thank you, good evening. let's get into this. with steve bannon planning to defy the deadline, what's your reaction? is he in any position to demand terms and how fast do you think that this criminal contempt charge could be coming his way? >> yeah, he's don not really in any kind of a strong position to demand or hide behind the executive privilege but that's not going to stop him from asserting it so on the house side what they will do is first vote to hold him in contempt, that should be pretty quick, pretty easy to do and then from there, they have a couple of options. they could refer that contempt citation to the department of justice and ask the department to prosecute him criminally for contempt. they could decide to pursue it in civil court, federal court and in the same way that they went after trump and other trump associates during the prior administration to try to enforce subpoenas that or they could send the se

we had james comey's problem and andrew mccabe. he admitted hess not trustful.bout injecting the fbi given the last three years of history back into a political dispute. and then the asymmetry of it, martha. we just had a u.s. senator, a federal employee, a high official, that was being followed into a rest room by activists that broke the law. apparently committed a felony by filming somebody without their permission in a bathroom. then they followed her on to a federal -- a flight on the jurisdiction of the federal aviation committee and heckled here. >> martha: is there an fbi investigation of who is following krysten sinema? >> no. and there is no fbi investigation when they surrounded rand paul and his wife after the state of the union. nor when jeff flake was a senator. they trapped him in an elevator. people are saying the fbi has been weaponized and the pentagon has been weaponized and the cia. there's a revolt against these unaccountsable appointees or lifetime bureaucrats that are exercising power as legislative judicial and executive all in one. >> ma

. >>> let's discuss now with the former deputy director with the fbi, andrew mccabe.er sandwich makes it pink panther like quality. but this is deadly serious. these are nuclear secrets that allegedly this nuclear submarine scientist was trying to pass and so just share with us the cloak and dagger stuff of how the fbi would even begin to crack this case? >> sure. so just to touch on that last point that you just made, the information that we're talking about here is incredibly serious. the ability to propel our submarines with nuclear technology is one of the things that puts us ahead of all of our enemies on the planet and the idea that someone entrusted with a top-secret clearance would hand that over to a foreign power is troubling. but let's step back for a minute and think about these dead drops. i know the peanut butter sandwich sounds crazy and i would like to know crunchy versus creamy, but think about the planning that this person went to. he was very careful to conceal those sd cards only in items that he would normally have had on his person when he went f

joining us now is andrew mccabe, the former fbi deputy director and he's a cnn senior law enforcement analyst. can you tell us what would be going on right now, take us behind the scenes of what kind of talks the fbi is having with the kidnappers and amongst themselves? >> sure, so, brianna, i was in this position many times during my time in the bureau, working with families, working with the state department, trying to recover kidnapped americans. and i can tell you what the bureau is doing is running an investigation to determine exactly who is behind the kidnapping, and also who could potentially influence the kidnappers. so you need to establish lines of communication to the people that actually have the hostages in hand, to be able to conduct this sort of negotiation. so you have fbi agents on the ground right now working very closely with their state department colleagues, working with law enforcement, and possibly intelligence officials in the host country. this is, of course, haiti in this situation. they are trying to pull together as much information as they can. all of tha

. >> do you think it's credible that james bacon, andrew mccabe, peter struck, lisa page, these individuals had no idea who michael suszman was and who his clients might be? >> i certainly understand why you're asking the question but if i could just finish. given this isongoing criminal case being brought by the special counsel with whom we're actively cooperating -- >> that's fine. i won't get an answer. let me make the final point here. either the fbi was completely clueless or corrupt that they didn't check into whether michael sussman might have been working for the hillary clinton campaign before they opened the investigation to leak to the press which put this nation through three, four years of political turmoil. there needs to be a political accountability. i hope john durham has a whole lot more he's going to be revealing because i got virtually nothing out of you based on subpoenas. interesting listening to your exchange with senator paul. you said it was unacceptable what happened. that's good. i'm glad to hear that. but you were confirmed in august of 2017. in february of 2018,

to account, but it becomes a very big deal but it becomes a big deal when we see someone like andrew mccabe, mentioned earlier, where you found that he clearly lied, was fired by the department of justice and thousand has been added back in -- now has been added back in. his pension's recovered, back pay is being paid back to him, there's a real feeling that, hey, this person lied, and there seems to be no consequence on it. so what we can do to be able to bring you testimonial subpoena authority and to be able to get at some of these things and at recommendations is of great benefit to just restoring trust in the government in the process. so i want to drill down on a couple of these. mr. horowitz, you've been through investigations before that crossed jurisdiction. you walked through the issue of glenn simpson and jonathan winter. it's a state department issue where you're over on department of justice, they're state department. then they retire and make this even harder. can we talk to when you get into an investigation that may include people from multiple, quote-unquote, other jurks ju

[video clip] >> the inspector general established that andrew mccabe lied under oath to investigators and under oath to the justice department inspector general. it should also be noted that he leaked government information to the media and then call the new york and washington fbi field offices and blamed them for the leaks that he caused. under your leadership instead of punishing him, his retirement was reinstated, his records were expunged and he will reportedly receive $200,000 in retirement backpay and his attorney will reportedly receive $500,000 in legal fees. so, it seems to me that that is beyond incredible. general garland, did you authorize the mccain settlement and if not, who did? that -- >> that settlement was the recommendation of the career lawyers litigating that case based on their prospects of success in the case. the case did not involve issues about lying. it involved the claim that he was not given the amount of time necessary to respond to allegations and the litigators concluded they needed to settle the case because of the likelihood of loss on the merits of

all know thatt isn't correct some people are but it becomes a very big deal with somebody like andrew mccabeyou found researched and that he clearly lied and fired by the department of justice and now has been addedl back in with his pension recovered and backpay is paid with the real sense to say this person lied and there seems to be no consequence so what can we do to bring you testimonial authority to get these things in recommendations is a great benefit to restore trust and then to drill down on a couple of these. you have been through the cross jurisdiction in the state department issue where the overall department of justice and then to make this harder. and those for multiple jurisdictions from other agencies. and then to get that testimonial evidence. >> it is very hard. i would reach out to the state ig andmu they would facilitate my being able to speak to that person much as i do when people call meat once the employee is gone they are gone. i have no authority over them the state department doesn't. but the defense department ig does. but obviously i don't cross over into that r

. >> the nonpartisan justice department inspector general established that andrew mccabe lied under oathbe noted that mccain leaked government information to the media and then called the new york and washington f.b.i. field offices and blamed them for the very leaks that he caused. under your leadership instead of punishing him the department reinstated his retirement, expunged his records as part of the settlement. he will reportedly receive $200,000 in retirement back pay and his attorney will receive $500,000 in legal fees. so it seems to me that's beyond incredible. so general garland, did you authorize the mccain settlement and if not, who did? >> the mccabe settlement was the recommendation of the career lawyers litigating that case based on their prospects of success in the case. the case did not involve the issues about lying, it involved a claim that he was not given amount of time necessary to respond to allegations and the litigators concluded they needed to settle the case because of the likelihood of loss on the merits of that claim. the inspector general's report still sta

there are some people held to account but it becomes a big deal when we see someone like andrew mccabe who we mentioned earlier, found he clearly ride, was fired and now has been added back in, his pension is now recovered, back pay is being paid back to him. last real sense of, hey, there was an inspector general came out that said this person lied and there seems to be no consequence on it. what we can do to bring you testimonial subpoena authority is of great benefit to just restoring trust in the government and the process so i'm going to drill down on a couple of these. mr. horowitz you've been through investigations before that crossed jurisdiction you walked through the issue of glen simpson and jonathan winter. they're state department and they retire and make this even harder. can we talk through when you get into an invest that -- information that may include people from multiple quote-unquote jurisdictions and then when they retire how hard it is to get the testimonial evidence. >> the normal process would be if the employee was still at the state department. i reach out to

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. >> the non partisan justice department inspector general established andrew mccabe lied under oath to special investigators and under oath to the justice department inspector general. and called field offices and plamd them for the very leaks that he caused. under your leadership instead of punishing him the department reinstated his retirement, expunged his records as part of the settlement. he will reportedly receive $200,000 in retirement back pay and his attorney will reportedly receive 500,000 in legal fees. so it seems to me that that's beyond incredible. general garland did you authorize the mccabe settlement and if not, who did? >> mccabe settlement was a recommendation of the career lawyers litigating that case based on their prospects of success in the case. the case did not involve issues about lying. it involved a claim that he was not given amount of time necessary to respond to allegations and the litigators concluded they needed to settle the case because the likelihood of loss on the merits of that claim. the inspector general's report still stands. we have not ques