manus: andrew parry is the head of -- joins us now. mobius says the bank of japan was delivering. it will hold back until yen hits 90 before the evoke helicopter money. andrew: i think it is a big step to go farther than they have gone already. helicopter money is an ill-defined concept. it means flooding the system and more liquidity. the problem with -- the problem you have with these extreme how do you unwind it? people talk about the immediate impact of monetary policy. what is the endgame? --it does work, [indiscernible] i do think there is this constant -- touching faith in the ability of the banks to turn it off and unwind it once these extreme actions have been put in place. caroline: how would you deem it has worked? is it the year -- is it the yen weakening? question. is a grand for me, too many people are focused on asset prices as the litmus test on whether it works. the nikkei are the s&p on the stoxx 600 going up. at the end of the day, mark mobius said japan leading the way it will if japan is leading, we've all got a very sad future. it is going to come down to econ