. >> but what would be the tipping point at which then you think that powell puts his foot on the brake? >> you know, andrewbout what drives business today or drives the financial systems, everybody has a return target. that return target doesn't really change. you think about what your liability stream is, what your irr target is. so i've got to hit a return target how am i going to get there? what are the tools that i have to get there you think about what happened years ago, the financial crisis and otherwise. when you keep rates low for too long, it will create leverage building up in a system, it will create stress in terms of overpurchasing of assets at the wrong price. listen, i think the equity market is where a lot of the income is today. the fixed income market, there are parts of emerging markets, but the equity markets is where all the income is today. we look at some of the dividends being paid out to free cash flow yield generation, but then it's going to get overdone. >> but just to put a fine point on it in terms of the valuations, you think even tech valuations today are very much within th