i should mention that i'm cochair with andrew rasmussen, secretary general of nato which is going to try to bring best practices as well as awareness of some of the threats not just to the us but to all our allies in north america and in europe. so the there is work we've done on this but are not where we need to be. but at least we will be in the right direction's i think some of you may have saw this evening that claire mccaskill's campaign started today, immediately and it was as if the russians had done it. i don't know whether they did or didn't but this is the kind of thing that even if you look back now at the summer of 16, i don't know if i can do that without crying but if you look back and you hear a lot of the things that were happening about john podesta's emails and hillary's emails, those emails. you realize that it wasn't the emails. it was what is on those emails. it was the data analytics of the campaign. it was her schedule. it was the polling data. so it wasn't are you coming to lunch or where are you going to be on tuesday. this was really important information th

here to weigh and is former nato secretary-general andrew rasmussen. thank you for being here.but also for a continued american global leadership. and we need that. i think in both political parties, i hope also among the republicans, there will be voices that will continue the work of mccain . >>gillian: you and others have said that empathy was at the heart and the core of senator mccain's outlook on foreign affairs. his approach to foreign policy. elaborate on that a little bit for me. >> i think he was a person who taught us all how to commit to something bigger than yourself. he had a strong moral compass. he strongly believed that there are certain principles and values that transcends politics and power. including the fight for freedom. that's why i do believe the best way to honor him in nato is to rename nato headquarters. given his name. i have suggested that for the nato allies to decide whether they will follow that suggestion. >>gillian: there is undoubtedly strained relations right now between the u.s. and its closest european allies whether it's germany, uk, fran