was fun to take, you know, sorter of took ayn rand and put her in real life, a character named andrew ryan about it, we really tried to explore the intersection of ideology and reality and how those sort of -- what happens when those two things actually interact. when you write a novel, those things, you're a fan of the ideology, those things don't necessarily line up perfectly, trying to make a more honest take on that. i think like all politicians, when ideology lines up with reality, they always have -- face different challenges they might think they are going to fair, that was the fun of the experiment we have of bioshock. >> a big economic force, a big entertainment force and a big emotional presence in a lot of people's lives, clear late a turning point. thank you, both of you. stick around, we are going to be looking at virtual reality in our heroes and zeroes today. we will find out why it's stirring controversy, up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the nissan altima with nasa inspired zero gravity seats. stirring controversy, up next. off your drive. ♪ ♪ nissan. innovation that excit