deputy city attorney andrew schenn. i think you raised a few brief issues in terms of reaching the november ballot. the deadline would be friday, august 5th. as you know, we have been doing a meet and confer for a number of months i think the ethics commission has reason to be optimistic to meet and confer by august 5th and i believe those discussions are continuing. as we've discussed on a few occasions, the actual substance and what is exchanged at meet and confer session social security confidential in sharing those in a nonconfidential manner or publicly disclosing those discussions can constitute unfair labor practice. i'm happy to reach out to d.h.r. and see what can be confidentially provided to the commissioners and by the current status of any proposals that have been shareded at those meetings. i'm happy to make that outreach. lastly, i can also say this is not eminent by any means, but this is an option under state law where a meet and confer if it's ultimately not successful, there is a possibility to either