courthouse, also with us is fbi general counsel and former senior member of the mueller probe, andrew weismannand former federal prosecutor paul butler. andrew, you were in the courtroom today, and you talked about susan hoffinger's cross. you said it was impressive. andrew weismann, you watched it as well. give us a description of what she did with bob costello, and why it was potentially so effective. >> well, she would -- let's start with, she was helped by the conduct of the witness. that was a gift to her. because -- >> give us a word. yesterday, it seemed belligerent. what was it today? >> it was -- the word that the judge used, contemptuous. speaking out in court, in reaction to the judge's rulings. he's a witness. he is not the judge. saying, i strike -- i'm going -- strike that. as the judge said, that's what the judge does, not the witness. reacting, saying, geez, rolling his eyes, staring down the judge. all of that is beyond the pale, let alone for a lawyer. this is -- i mean, who knows better. >> and today he seemed snippy and arrogant. >> yes. he also -- it will be interesting to

but i'll pose the question to you that i asked to andrew weismann before.nd someone who supports donald trump, perhaps in this conversation will say, oh, come on, he'll never do that! come on! you guys are crazy. you're radical! you're just like, over the top! i'm really tired of hearing all of this trump crazy stuff, because it's never going to happen. senator, your thoughts? >> so i look at it this way. this all started with donald trump, and if donald trump makes it back to the white house, it just multiplies and gets worse and worse and worse. you know, donald trump bragged about overturning roe v. wade. he is the one who put that extremist supreme court in place. and he continues, when he's in front of the right audience, to brag about that. the rest of us are now living with wave after wave of what happens when roe goes away. the 10-year-old girl who is raped and can't get an abortion in the state where she lives. the women who have been partway through a miscarriage and can't receive the medical care that they need. the doctors, as you rightly pointe