andrew wilkow scheme. we had to madison wisconsin. this city in the north of the united states is home to andrew housekeeper and the company of hot dog king oscar meyer who we came across in the preston martin case america is. the scientist work for this company for thirty years. you know to. he's at the university. but he doesn't hide his proximity to the american meat body. presented with our i.r.c. challenge documents he acknowledges everything. almost. so did the meat industry paid you for this i received some compensation for my time as well as the others how much. i'm not going to say i don't know thousands tens of thousands of dollars. small amounts. can we have an idea. and defending not tried since to be a very big thing for industry looking for a substitute. has been attempted. and was a tall sally. something as chemically simple as nitrite. and as unique as nitrate having a substitute has not been possible to anyone's ability but if there is more risk of getting cancer don't you think it's important to try to find a solutio

so for andrew wilkow ski the colorectal cancer the hundreds of studies on the dangers of nitrites none of it exists off you go nothing to do with it. in the united states it's thanks to scientists like milk cows that the meat industry has been able to cut another notch in its belt. surprisingly in the health conscious state of california. this imposing building is home to the state cabinet level california environmental protection agency. we have an appointment with sam dell sent deputy director for external and legislative affairs. to show us a document that doesn't exist in any other american state with a shell or not and. so me. so this is the lists yes it's a list of substances judged dangerous to man by the state of california. to do business here manufacturers are banned from using these substances or they are obliged to warn consumers and it's very restrictive because there are over eight hundred products on the list so good example that would be tobacco smoke entirely and there's other things like as benzene that will be something you know we have come in things like exhaust an