joining me now is andrew zimmern of host of "what's eating america" and bishop barber is back with meandon, i want to start with you, it sounds like you don't feel safe at work. is that something you share with your co-workers? >> yes, just due to the fact that we are in a really tight, compact place. there's no social distancing. we are all stressing over that. >> and do you feel pressure to go to work if you don't feel well? >> i do. bills are still coming in. if you don't go to work, you don't get paid. so there is always pressure. >> there's no sick pay? >> no, if you don't go, you don't get paid. >> andrew, if brandon does not feel safe at work, should the people who are consuming the meat that's being produced in places where workers don't feel safe themselves, should the public feel safe with those products? >> no. i don't believe so. i think this is just another extension of what we call the systematic poverty in our food chain. it is also part of the fact that poverty is a symptom here of the larger inequality issue. the original sin of the racism that we have not dealt with