andrey kortunov well -- andrey: well i don't know what kind of personal relationship they have. might be skeptical about any kind of personal affinity between the two men, but in my opinion, zelenskyy is the only legitimate leader in ukraine. ukraine would probably replace him with someone else, but he or she will not be accepted by the ukrainian population. what is the alternative? i personally do not see any. i think gradually we will seem more and more readiness to negotiate with volodymyr zelenskyy. we don't know what will happen at the next presidential elections in ukraine. zelenskyy has emerged as an international icon. he is known all over the world. he is respected and even admired in many countries. so how can you get rid of him? why should you do that? my take is that russia will have to deal with latimer zelenskyy if russia wants to -- with vladimir zelenskyy if russia wants to end this conflict. mohammed: from your point of view, has vladimir putin accepted he's going to have to deal with zelenskyy, or does he want to replace zelenskyy? zachary: it increasingly look