andriy dubchak.colleague from radio svoboda, whom they actually met a few years ago , but of course i take the active part now, that is, i am a representative of the burgundy formally, so when there is some promotion of our fund i will now touch on, i think, the most important question in the conversation, at least the most burning for me, this question is about justice, whether the state or we as a society are generally able to punish criminals and achieve justice. i always use the procedure the last eight years i know that you started to create a fund when in kyiv they detained the baton of this denis kulikovsky commandant and the map of the prison of isolation, which i live peacefully in kyiv and which the law enforcement agency of ukraine had nothing to do with until you started tracking him together with e the international investigators told me at the time that the sbu actually forced him to detain him. i remember the actions that took place when you were in prison. in the territories where the