andy biggs, not only has i think a reasonable mind, i think he can step back from this. he will also be very influential on others. as goes biggs, i think a number of them will also go. i really do. and for, you know, matt rosendale has to look people in the mirror and say you are criticizing the speaker for working with democrats but you are the one that will be voting with the democrats today. so -- >> john: yeah, an interesting point to make. we won't have to wait long when the roll is called to find out how biggs voted, at least his name is not zimmerman. might have to wait a long time if it were. jason, good to see you. thanks so much. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> john: at this hour, house speaker kevin mccarthy fighting to hold on to the gavel with the house set to vote on a motion to oust him. breaking coverage continues with hour two of "america reports." john roberts in washington. good to have somebody with your experience here. >> aishah: i'm glad to be here. all hell is breaking loose -- >> john: can we say it? it's true. >> aishah: chad pergram is i

what andy biggs is talking about, andy biggs knew the speaker kevin mccarthy might get ousted, regardlessf what happened in the coming week. he knew if the speaker was ousted, to paraphrase what byron donalds was talking about, the appropriations bills would get tossed out of the window and funding the government out of the wind in november and securing the border right out of the window. he did know that would happen. matt gaetz, you compared him to ross perot, you should not throw ross perot in the sewage lagoon with matt gaetz. i compare him to that toddler we've seen at the family barbecue eating toilet paper, shoving cheerios up his nose to get attention, that is what matt gaetz did yesterday. saddled up with all those democrats. >> harris: i didn't go to that barbecue. >> kayleigh: stop tackling team republican and tackle team democrats. figuratively speaking, democrats are trying to make president biden look cooler for young voters and turning to the movie "mean girls," i'm sure that will work. ♪ if you're a veteran wife, homeowner, and the family bookkeeper, you're the first to kn

congressman andy biggs of arizona, member of the house oversight and judiciary committees. great to have you in "focus" today. was it planned for the eight of you to vote against kevin mccarthy? was it a voting block-type situation? >> well, i think we talked about it, yeah. i don't know if i would say it was a plan to vote against him. i think when this started taking place, yeah, i was intending to vote against mccarthy. i had no idea the democrats would come on board until sometime yesterday. it wasn't that i was asking them to come on board. my position was always clear because i believe that speaker mccarthy not as a person. he is a nice enough fellow. but as a leader, he had failed not just the conference but the country in my opinion. >> harris: everything has come to a standstill right now, everything. and i know that maybe the pushback would be well those subpoenas and those investigations are going on. you need a speaker of the house to act on the subpoenas. that's one thing promised to the american people. i want to get a handle on what happens as the business is

andy biggs of arizona said he is unfavorably polite. jim jordan failed last week. jim jordan has similar policy but his lack of a national profile had jordan had not going to be an antijohnson campaign. and i think relationship, former chairman of the republican study caucus. mike johnson is well liked. host: even those even in those relationships and talked about the conservatives in the conference and that is other republicans as well? >> he is not seen as a flame thrower in the way that jim jordan is including appropriators and kay granger opposed. moderates there is not a feeling it will hurt them in the same way supporting jim jordan would have. host: what are the democrats' view of mike johnson? >> you heard is mike johnson the same as jim jordan. they view him as a threat to abortion rights and highlighting his role in objecting to the 2020 election results and donald trump and wants to cut programs to americans. house democrats are coming out expecting to be speaker and portraying him as an extreme republican. host: if he becomes speaker has he sketched out

the person who has a problem with this, if i can find his name -- andy biggs.ggs, republican from arizona, said there are at least five republicans who would go against the brand-new speaker if he were to come up with a deal that would extend the continuing resolution through january or april. we are headed into some really rough waters with the speaker as we were just talking about, who has come from out of nowhere, has never chaired a committee. we have no idea how he is going to lead this raucous caucus tether resolution -- to the resolution we keep the government open. >> i need to ask you about the news out of new hampshire today, dean phillips announcing he will run for president against president biden, for the democratic presidential nomination. what kind of impact do you think it could have? >> come on, man! joe biden is the president of the united states. the best way to win the presidency is to already be in it. the power of incumbency is incredible. in a race that's already going to be razor thin, why is congressman phillips -- from the great state

here are the eight conservatives who voted to remove mccarthy, andy biggs, ken buck, tim burchett and by the way a, tim burchett told us yesterday on the program that he is poised to vote out mccarthy. eli crane, matt gaetz led the whole effort, virginia bob good, nancy mace and matt rosendale. former president trump posted this, why is it that republicans are always fighting among themselves, why aren't they fighting the radical left democrats who are destroying our country, a point you made earlier, lee carter. >> that's what i'm trying to say this. this should be the moment where republicans come together, make their case on all the things they would do differently if that win in 2024. instead it's looking like a party that can't get itself together, they can't fight against what they think is wrong here which is run away spending, which is inflation, which is where the economy's going, which is all of these things. and right now it's going to be infighting, it's going to look as if republicans can't govern, they can't lead and it's really unfortunate. now, this isn't to say that i

eight republicans voted to remove kevin mccarthy as house speaker, representatives andy biggs, kim buck, tim burchett, eli crane, matt gates, bob good, ncy mays and matt rosendale. you can follow the u.s. house when lawmakers return here on c-span. host: we've been covering capitol hill. what do you know, billy, what happens next? guest: they're heading to a unified house conference going in closed sessions shortly here at 6:30 and different scenarios, kevin mccarthy will announce his candidacy for the speakership, maybe. our republicans saying they don't think that's a good idea and don't think he can win and he knows it. perhaps discussion of other candidates ranging from the current number two who is battling health concerns, steve scalise, tom emmer, the noes counter, and others, including people you wouldn't think of but who may throw their hats in the ring. a lot of disorientation there within the group but they know they have 44 days to another potential shutdown and don't want the country to perceive them as unable to address the governing they need to do, so there's a sense the

elizabeth: joining us now from house oversight, the one and only congressman andy biggs.n. so we understand that mike johnson won the speakership. what is, what is the house gop if going to do about this with the irs? your house oversight committee went after the irs commissioner, daniel werfel, for dysfunction, spending tens of billions of dollars in the on customer service, but on more audits of americans. americans are scared. they don't like what democrats are doing here. what are the house republicans going to do here on this? >> well, the best way for us to address it is to go in and remove some of the funding that they previously receive. they haven't used that money, and they want to use it to audit more people just as you said. but not only that, they're falling behind on the transition to better systems, you know, computer systems and technology, but they're not answering letters, they're not processing things. so for us to get at it, we need to use the number one check on them that we have, and that's the pocketbook. we still have a few appropriations bills to

andy biggs of arizona, eli crane of arizona, bob good virginia said they would support gaetz's move. and while he was still, "praying" about it he said that his conscious tells him to vote him out. and that is about having those speaker vacated. and in ohio, democrat line. we have catherine. caller: good morning thank you for taking my call. my call this morning is this. ims dumped -- i am stumped, the have the white house, we have a house, we have the senate, and the white house is one half of one third. and the half of the republicans have about 20 members who want to rule what is done everywhere. i'm sorry, but i thought that we lived in a majority country where the majority, i am sure kevin mccarthy has promised the 80 normal republicans something otherwise they would not have voted for him. so i do not understand why david 20 who are the foulest people in that house, not only debase a foul things, but they do what we consider, i am 75, if i in my age, if a man sells a woman up in a theater you would be shamed. but not in this congress, they act like they where that as a badge. h

congressman andy biggs, ken buck and tim burchett, eli crane, matt gaetz, bob good, nancy mace and matt rosendale. those were the eight g.o.p. members to remove representative kevin mccarthy. democratic caller. caller: i think you do a terrific job and wonderful service. you know, i don't think the republicans are a serious party anymore. it has been a long time coming and what we are seeing right now -- i'm not going to say the takeover from the maga wing because i think that's who the republicans are. they aren't interested in policy but going from chaos to chaos. performance politics. and that's not helping anyone. i have watched other hearings, jim jordan hearings and biden impeachment hearings, it's performance and ridiculous. and this is the end result of that. it's unfortunate. i'm not sure do they lunch further to the right or find a center, i'm not sure what will happen. but it has been a long time coming and that party needs to take a deep look internally and decide do they want to be for something or just performance. those are my thoughts. host: max cohen ask g.o.p. represen

that he would and matt rosendale and matt gaetz will, and paul gosar and maybe even ken buck and andy biggs. he could only lose five if democrats vote against him. and that is the question. what do the democrats do? hakeem jeffries and mccarthy said to cbs that he has not had conversations with hakeem jeffries about this. now i've been told by a senior democratic source that there is just skepticism within the democratic caucus about saving mccarthy. in their view, he has not done bipartisan -- taken bipartisan action. he launched this impeachment inquiry into joe biden and they see a need to save him. maybe some of the more moderates will do that. but it is an open question at this moment. >> it is a matter of launching impeachment inquiry against the president of the united states. but it is coming down to the issue of trust. how could democrats trust mccarthy when, for example, the speaker and the president struck this budget deal in may and within a matter of weeks he was willing to go beyond it. so i think it is going to take a big leap of faith for democrats to strike some sort of a d

matt gaetz, andy biggs, ralph norman and dan bishop rejected every spending plan the speaker mccarthy forward they blew everything up they force them to get help from the democrats, water performance and what did they win, nothing. absolutely nothing at all, except to make themselves in the house republican caucus a laughingstock. gaetz said sunday he would introduce a motion to vacate to dump the speaker with the gaetz it is personal he t involved in the ongoing ethics investigation and he believes mccarthy has not supported him. you perished your party and country over personal dispute. mccarthy may need democrat support again to keep the speakership. in this p.m. politics, the democrats demand concessions. in other words the holdouts would've held out and move spending a policy backwards. a. on fox news republican congressman carlos hermanus says gates is joe biden's favorite republican. that says it all. republican chaos at the democrats opportunity to keep on spending taxing and running up the debt a trillion a year, what did you. second hour of "varney" just getting warmed up. ♪

. >> andy biggs, nancy mason, bob good joining those who said no to speaker mccarthy from the republicanide. bill mcgurn, where you come in on this? he's not there. sam dewey, where you come on this? >> i think it is extraordinary, it's never happened before and what is next is going to be a huge thing. the first is unlike in january, the house is constituted of the committees still have authority to act. the house floor and do nothing but vote on a new speaker but committee chairman can continue oversight the so that's an important distinction. they have existing authority to continue their work and that can continue and staff can continue to work. on the broader., i think we will have to see the dog who caught the car and doesn't know what to do and that's very possible or gates and others meant what they said, this is because we do not trust this speaker and this speaker has not kept with promises and that's a principal position than in theory, their answer will be will take anybody we can deal with in good faith and keep the promises. which is it? i don't know. we'll see. >> people a

you see andy biggs and ken buck and tim burchett. they both sit on foreign affairs.d, matt rosen dale and, surprisingly, the more moderate nancy mace. north carolina's patrick mchenry will act as the temporary speaker while congress tries to find a new one. mccarthy says he's not breasted in coming back -- interested in coming back. other names being floated, steve scalise, but, of course, he is being treated for blood cancer. jim jordan, and tom emmer who's the majority whip. the house is out of session this week, ash. they return tuesday hoping to pick a new member one week from today but, honestly, who would want this sort of job? ashley: that is a very good question, and i'm not sure too many would, but we'll get into it. lauren, thank you. mccarthy, by the way, held a press conference last night following the vote and, of course, he took aim at the eight republicans who teamed up with democrats to unseat him. take a listen to this. >> they are not conservatives. they don't get to say they're conservative because they're angry and they're chaotic. they are not co

judiciary committee as so many talented individuals, you have ken back, matt gaetz, my good friend andy biggsry, and he ay one of those kids continue the work and dissect the problems and lay the questions out and get the committee organized in a fashion that can extract information from the witnesses that they are try to get out. the big problem that we continue to have as the department of justice is not charge a prosecutor congress elevates all this information, the department of justice is not charging and prosecuting and this goes back to why the appropriation process is so critically important to secure the southern border and get the weaponization of the government whether the irs or fbi from conducting surveillance on catholics because they went into a latin mass were parents because they went to school board meeting or the irs for rating a gun store in montana. the only thing that will bring those and if we utilize a preparation process which by the way has been in statute since the budget act of 1974, this is what we're supposed to do and congress continues to ignore their own charg

. >> it is rich that kevin mccarthy would suggest that conservatives like me and andy biggs and mattking with the democrats on something when he needed to pass a debt ceiling bill, he went to president biden, agreed to a number that was $2 hundred billion more than he promised the republican conference and relied on democrats to pass that debt ceiling bill. when we were nearing a shutdown, he lost 90 votes from the republican conference because the bill was so terrible and he relied on democrats the pass the bill. there were eight republicans fed up and dozens more who would have voted for this but didn't need to. they didn't need to stick out their necks out. some of us felt so strongly about spending and the irresponsibility of having $36 trillion of debt at the end of next year based on the deal that kevin mccarthy cut that we stood up and did something about it. >> martha: their plan was continue to go through the appropriations bill over the course of the next several weeks and break them down and get them done. he has a very tough situation. he had a tough situation. the number

. >> congressman andy biggs of arizona reacted on x, you'll never deprogram me or millions of americaor eric schmitt of missouri, hillary clinton who called half the country a basket of deplorables advocates for reeducation camp or present framing. democrats should get her on the campaign trail more often. president trump will be on the campaign trail himself. after appearing in court this week he is the leading republican candidate for president. we've reached out to the trump team this morning for their reaction to clinton's comments. so far we haven't heard back. >> sandra: keep us posted. nate, thank you. >> that's what we're trying to figure out? our job is to investigate everything that happens. that's what we're trying to do. obviously the more information. >> i didn't do anything wrong. >> bill: that was back in december of 2018. that is a key piece of the puzzle revealed in this bribery and corruption case against the new jersey senator, democrat bob menendez. a fatal car accident involving his future wife now linked to an alleged bribery scheme. prosecutors accusing menendez

extremists and the republican conference, that low and ports and margaret taylor greene's and all the andy biggs and all those people. the real problem is the so-called moderates, the ones who claim not to support that who simply bow to that maga extremists every time. and i wish i could say, with confidence, they won't do it this time. that they won't elect jim jordan, who is everything that you just said and much more. he's pushing the ridiculous investigation of president biden at this point, the impeachment. he is about as extreme as you can get. but i don't know. with the moderates, they cave every single time. i hope they don't care this time. we are greatly concerned they will, and wind up with jim jordan's speaker. and the house will become even more partisan, more dysfunctional. >> the world will definitely be watching in the house of representatives on monday. congressman adam smith, thank you for joining us today. we appreciate it. special coverage of the israel hamas war continues right here on msnbc in just minutes. after the break, we will talk to an american rabbi with a strong me

andy biggs is one of them. the "wall street journal" writes mr. biggs argued on the floor that the house hadn't passed a 12 annual spending bills on time but that's because of demands from members like him. he and mr. gaetz offered mainly a list of grievances and supposedly failed promises that had no chance of being realized as congress. the real motive looks to be spite, personal and political and the result is to sow chaos in their own ranks. and to that they certainly did. because now the house that has a slim republican majority looks like they can't govern. >> brian: they have a strong case when you go to swing districts and say you saw the chaos in the house. you have got to put a democrat in charge. give hakeem jeffries the gavel. tim burchett joined me earlier. he was upset that mccarthy they had a conversation mccarthy called them up and said surprised you voted for me 15 a straight times now you have to pray on whether to oust me or not. and they seemed to have a different interpretation of what happened in that conversation. so here's

. >> we have a lot of stuff coming up and that's what we have going on and we have congressman, andy biggsto fix that swirling manure show. [laughter] that is going on down in washington and rob smith is joining us on believe gotta making those student loan payments again and we will see. >> and will be talking to ryan sankey and others about the biden administration's more on your gas prices at the top of the hour. nice footwork. man, you're lucky, watching live sports never used to be this easy. now you can stream all your games like it's nothing. yes! [ cheers ] yeah! woho! running up and down that field looks tough. it's a pitch. get way more into what you're into when you stream on the xfinity 10g network. liz: and examiner, investigator reporter, sarah bet for is good to see you again what your reaction to hunter biden in court tomorrow he's expected to plead not guilty with three felony counts that involved lying in a form to buy good in 2018 and what you looking for here. >> i think that you know it's interesting regarding we've already started to see the team lay out with the are

showboating and play acting, like matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene and lauren boebert and andy biggs and all the rest of weirdo caucus, you are going to end up with situations like this, where they will try, in the house, to exploit the budget process to, as charlie dent mentioned, to put in these ridiculous riders in these bills, and the senate -- tommy tuberville, who held up until, apparently, today, over 300 military appointments and nominations. so, all these factors about reassessing, it they presume that we will be dealing with rational actors. and none of these people in the hyper maga wing of the party are rational actors. they would have liked the shutdown to occur. they want the chaos. they want the confusion. they want the economic damage to the country. they want to delay ukraine aid to help vladimir putin, who they side with. there is nothing about these people that you can look at them and say, they are rational actors. and even kevin mccarthy, a man with the spinal structure of the average octopus, managed today to say, you know what? i am done playing with matt gaetz

this is andy biggs on the floor. >> two trillion plus structural deficit like we had in 2023. you know what that leads you to? a $30 trillion national debt. which is where we sit today. leads you to somewhere north of $700 billion in interest payments. you know why that happened? because this body is entrenched in a suboptimal path and refuses to leave it. refuses to leave that path. you cannot change if you're unwilling to change. we had every opportunity to change. we were promised change. we were promised we were going to go ahead and get those 12 bills done and if we did, do you know why you do 12 bills? because it allows you to reduce spending, get rid of wasteful, due politictive programs. it allows you to set an agenda to restore fiscal sanity. we chose to not do it again. we were promised we'd do it. that's why at the end, some people said we'll vote present. we'll go ahead. we're going to put our trust in mr. mccarthy to become the speaker. that didn't happen. i suspected that would be the case. that was my struggle. that was my struggle last november and december. i

bruce westerman is speaking at the moment, congressman andy biggs of arizona just spoke on the house. he said he thinks it is, indeed, time for a, quote, change in gop leadership in the house. he was one of the 11 republicans who voted with with the democrats to force a vote to oust kevin mccarthy. that vote should be coming up in about 41 minutes because now senate intelligence committee chair or mark warner of virginia is, he's with us first on fox business. i should just get your gut reaction on what is going on in the halls behind you. >> well, liz, first of all, i've got to tell you, as intelligence committee chair, i've got no secret intel on the house floor. matter of fact, i'm not sure which is the analogy, is it hunger games playing out or the battle of kens from the barbie movie. and i don't mean to be glib. this is, obviously, an unprecedented event for the speaker. i don't have the foggiest idea how it's going to play out. it's remarkable, you know in we work about 200 yards apart from each other, but it really is kind of separate universes on certain days. liz: "the new

and you have got andy biggs of arizona. ken buck from colorado, tim burchett who is coming up on this program from tennessee. eli crane in arizona. he i am going to show you is he on the host. it bob good from virginia. nancy mace of south carolina. and matt rosendale from the great state of montana. on the cover of the "new york post," here you can see right here, kevin mccarthy, that's his picture, the headline is mccarthy first house speaker ever ousted after co coup by florida matt gaetz. gaetz from hell. finally worked to get a slim majority in the house of representatives. total chaos. and now to a lot of the country they are looking, in hey, the republicans finally got the chants to drive the car, they are in a ditch. >> lawrence: well, this is probably gonna happen anyway. kevin mccarthy was set to be speaker in 2015 as you know he did not get the votes back then. and paul ryan ended up being the speaker. we saw the vote after vote for him to become speaker. and part of the thing. the criticism that was made during

andy biggs. these are some of the members that voted to oust him. it always comes down to the math, neil. i'm going to check the math to make sure we're on in terms of the members that voted against this. this is a historic day. they -- he didn't have the votes. that's always been the problem for kevin mccarthy. he didn't have the votes back in 2015 when john boehner stepped aside as the speaker. he was supposed to be elected speaker. didn't work out then. took him five days and 15 rounds in january to become speaker. the longest speaker's race since 1859 before he secured the speakership. this hats been a problem for republicans kind of landing on who is to be speaker ever since john boehner departed. remember, it was mark meadows later president trump's chief of staff at the time, a republican representative from north carolina who did something very similar to what matt gaetz did here. he offered a resolution to vacate the chair but never made it live. that was hanging over the head of john boehner. and boehner released it was best to get out of

and part of the reason andy biggs is saying that is some members of the squad and others are suggestingtaking because san refugees. rachel: i thought the biden administration said they were going to. did i not hear that? pete: i don't know that that's confirmed, i've seen the suggestions made. why would it be america when you've got an entire middle east full of countries that won't take a single refugee? rachel: that's a good point. join fox corporation in supporting the israel emergency fund in association with the united jewish appeal. just scan the qr code here to donate at a ujafedny.org. will: coming up, what was supposed to be a day of joy turned to tragedy. an israeli couple attending the funerals of three friends killed at that music festival massacre on what was supposed to be their wedding day. the groom is now heading to the front lines, and he joins us ahead. rachel: but first, a live look at gaza is city as iran threatens to intervene if israel carries out their planned offensive. pete: if retired general don bolden joins us on that coming up next. ♪ ♪ eryone feel at home.

andy biggs saying he was favorably disposed. tim from tennessee says he prayed about how to vote. he went support moving him from the post. it's saying, i said repeatedly that we cannot repeat the failures of the past. he said for the speaker to totally surrender and capitulate , 209 democrat votes. it was a bad deal for the american people. highlighting previous mccarthy opponents saying, now they are supporting him. saying on sean hannity's show that it was a major distraction. saying, i think the speaker deserves the opportunity to honor the commitments that he made. representative lauren boebert from colorado. there are others in that working list. where they are, compared to this effort -- it was after he filed the motion. he went to the steps of the capital. here is part of that from yesterday. >> one of two things will happen. kevin mccarthy will not be speaker of the house or he will be working at the pleasure of the democrats. i am at peace with either result. plexi made it clear that if this failed, you would try again. >> this will not be the only time. >> who would you

eight republicans voted to remove kevin mccarthy as house speaker, representatives andy biggs, kim buck, tim burchett,

democratic coalition in the house rather than the gop -- >> god forbid he is not aligned with the 20 andy biggsfall back on that, jonathan. i saw the quote. if you are going to try to oust me because my only choice to keep the government open was to get a couple of democrats, then go ahead. what you just said was funny. you said he would be left with not just appeasing the hard core 20 guys, but have to have support across the aisle. that is not the worst thing in the world? >> to the audience, that sounds fine and for americans between the 40 yard lines, that sounds fine. i think mccarthy doesn't want to see his wings clipped by his party and have to be the compromise. >> that comes with the job. on the 15th vote, that was already -- he knew what he was getting into. we knew it was only a matter of time. matt gaetz said this is the first time i'm going to keep doing it. he is getting -- i looked through. a lot of pictures of matt gaetz. he's everywhere. his profile is what he wants if he is running for florida governor. >> is that the end game here? >> gaetz is running for governor in 2026 in

the hill highlighting the fact that republicans led the motion along with andy biggs, eli crane and nancy mays and matt rosendale calling the house situation a mess. the house gop should have stayed in conference after they no longer act jim jordan. let's hear from stephen in california. caller: i don't understand, they went from eight to 100. they have no control over their conference. he went on face the nation and blame the democrats, what are they supposed to do? they are trying to say it's the democrats fault. the whole system doesn't make sense. what the one lady said about the two-party system. it is doomed to fail if people cannot vote their conscience. host: that was stephen from california. from twithe minority of the caucus gaveve indication did exactly what they would do. kevin mccarthy is a victim of the same partisan politics that he has always been a part of himself. newsweek highlights one of those candidates that could become the next speaker, byron donald said he would release footage of january 6. he is among the nine lawmakers that has also made a critical promise want

andy biggs and matt rose. >> ricky gervais hakeem jeffrie important person. >> call off the impeachment hearings? ukraine. >> ukraine funding. >> it was pointed out by congress member from florida and it helps democrats by weakening mccarthy further. >> the question is who would replace mccarthy? a year ago, steve scalise. he is fighting illness. >> you have the impeachment thing or another budget. i don't know. >> the reason you see yields higher this morning on the ten-year is because this gets us down to november 17th. there are a lot of questions as to what happens. it is a huge surprise that kevin mccarthy was able to avert a shutdown. >> i talked to him last week with. i knew it was the only choice. the only thing. andrew, there is a company -- royal a. >> spelled differently? >> you don't know. i think you can say it. how about asshat? that is code word for the full. it doesn't mean anything. you use it in place. >> that's why i don't think you can use it. >> it's cable. it's cable. >> i know. >> we got bernstein coming. >> exactly. >> from the white house. >> we have that. 8:00

this is representative andy biggs of arizona.en is bizarrely touting the success of his economy. why is he celebrating high inflation, high interest rates, high gas prices and a high national debt? congressman mike waller says, families are struggling with record high grocery costs, gas prices yet again on the rise and highest mortgage rates in decades. now is not the time to be taking a victory lap over the jobs report when the affordability crisis is as crushing as ever. and coach tommy tuberville, centerville -- senator says mortgage rates have tripled. joe biden is in denial. and regarding the speaker race, the ouster of kevin mccarthy -- this happened yesterday on foxnews.com. trump endorses jim jordan for speaker of the house. "complete and total endorsement." jordan and scully's have announced -- to replace mccarthy as house speaker. warmer trump gave jim jordan his complete and total endorsement for speaker of the house, saying he is respected by all. congressman jim jordan has been a star long before making his successfu

this is representative andy biggs of arizona.iden is bizarrely touting the success of his economy. why is he celebrating high inflation, high interest rates, high gas prices and a high national debt? congressman mike waller says, families are struggling with record high grocery costs, gas prices yet again on the rise and highest mortgage rates in decades. now is not the time to be taking a victory lap over the jobs report when the affordability crisis is as crushing as ever. and coach tommy tuberville, centerville -- senator says mortgage rates have tripled. joe biden is in denial. and regarding the speaker race, the ouster of kevin mccarthy -- this happened yesterday on foxnews.com. trump endorses jim jordan for speaker of the house. "complete and total endorsement." jordan and scully's have announced -- to replace mccarthy as house speaker. warmer trump gave jim jordan his complete and total endorsement for speaker of the house, saying he is respected by all. congressman jim jordan has been a star long before making his success

host: andy biggs arizona among the list.epresentative eli crane of arizona, bob good of virginia, and nancy mace of south carolina joining the list as well alongside matt rosendale of montana. justin in maryland, independent line. the removal of kevin mccarthy as speaker. you are next. >> i want the american people to understand what just happened. the democrats did want a shut down, but they will not tell anybody that. they like the theater and want to point fingers, but once trump goes away, what policies are they going to actually stand on? what they did yesterday, why would anybody want to work with them moving forward? i will put $100 right now on it. when it comes to november but the government will be shut down because why would you work with someone when most republicans already said they did not want mr. mccarthy out and then you side with most extremist politicians in the government? "washington journal" was the only one really that covered it right. it was eight republicans and democrats. not just republicans. the

andy, same for you? >> very similar position for me and the bigges of challenge investors are facing is psychology and perception of value. when the yield curve is flat and inverted the bond market is upside down. peep view similar returns in cash especially after the last two years. here's what i think they're missing. i think what they're missing is there's value in making a commitment. if you like today's yields for three months why not three years or something longer? >> do people think inflation will be so high -- i've looked at it and they've made 30 years at 5%, but you are at some point going to lose your purchasing power. >> once blurred, twice shy. i think investors are looking at mark to market returns that are negative again this year and feeling like they want to see the safety in three months and what i'm trying to encourage them to think five to ten years. >> three years of losses in bonds which maybe has never happened before. so understandably, people are a little bit nervous. >> and we had that 2021 period of equities that was pretty rough, too. so people went from having goals to having higher