no, andy dufrene. millions and then spend years trying to break out and then finally would break out and end up living on a beach in mexico, living with my best friend. it's like, would you do everything andy dufrene did? yeah. would you be sexually assaulted? everything but that. back in san quentin, juan said there's a man i should meet who knows all about rehabilitation and accountability, inmate ron self. self is a decorated former marine and founder of his own program here at the prison. the u.s. has over 200,000 incarcerated veterans. challenges like ptsd, unemployment and substance abuse contribute to these high numbers. ron's program helps them address tough issues in an environment of trust. it's called veterans healing veterans from the inside out. >> we were with juan, and he said, are they going to talk to any of the veterans? and i was just like, what do you mean veterans? like, it just didn't occur to me that, of course, everybody's in here. so i said, who should we talk to? and you were