. >> the senior executives at one point there's a lot of pressure on andy fasto. kenneth lay works to make a decision about andy fasto and how did that play out. >> kenneth lay held a conference call with analysts. meal was on as well. basically saying i have full confidence and andy fasto. he has done nothing wrong. everything is fine. the next day he was put on leave. again from a company perspective you got to have credibility. you have to have your action match what you are saying. i think one of the further problems, andy fasto was put on leave and it took the board six months to fire him. >> the company didn't know and partly didn't know because they didn't try to know some of the key things about the ljm partnership. the board of directors and top management approved what was unique in a corporate relationship in the history of american corporations. i once did part of all this, went through the sec filings of fortune 500 companies, all 500 just to see if there was anything like it and he essentially there was nothing comparable to the ljm partnership. incr