i will miss the freewheeling andy haldane. it is nice to have dissent , to have open discussion and hash out the different points of view. as the united kingdom tries to move past the pandemic, you wonder whether they will tighten the message. jonathan: are you still worried about the groupthink at some of the central banks? lisa: i don't know if we can call it groupthink or the dramatic acceptance of a low-inflation world, that you can push it pretty far without getting any inflationary impulse. i wonder about the complacency around that given the dynamics of supply chain and not deglobalization but more localized supply chain. tom: this is a guy with the stanford phd. it is a very different stanford phd. huw pill had the privilege of running with the wonderful ronald mckinnon. mckinnon is one of the most interesting economist out there. for huw pill to hang out with mckinnon gives you a different student, a different doctor, different person. jonathan: joining catherine mann , appointed more recently as well. on the groupthi