what's interesting to me, when i hear bob mueller or jim comey or andy mccabe described as republicans, it sort of makes me pause. i have worked with all of them, and i've got to tell you, not only did i not know what their politics were, i couldn't imagine having that conversation with them. that is something we leave at the doorstep always. >> it's a great point. i just meant they had been appointed by republicans as well as democrats for their high-level positions. >> right, and they served in many different administrations. the article jim comey wrote in "the new york times" is interesting because he says -- i think properly so -- it's not about the outcome, it's about the process. if the process is fair, if it's not obstructed, if the prosecutors and agents have access to witnesses and documents and if robert mueller is left to do his work, then whatever the outcome is the outcome is. that's the way we always think about our cases. it's not we're trying to get nicolle wallace. we're trying to get the truth. if the truth exonerates her, as of course it would, that's great. >> conce

he didn't give me the answer andy mccabe gave in that clip we showed, of course you had to take that into consideration. do you think robert mueller out to answer the question whether donald trump can be a blackmail for russians because of his lies told and his ongoing contacts and negotiations with trump tower moscow? >> no doubt about it. as matt says, you read the body of the appointment of mueller and that is any links between the campaign and russia, what he has been directed to answer. and it did begin and comey knows this as a counterintelligence operation that he first announced to the congress. that's what it says in the appointment of mueller. that's the one that's being continued. i think he wants to give mueller breathing room and not prejudge in any way, but all of the things we've been hearing that have been developed over the last year plus go to that question as much as criminal liability. and mueller certainly is about the task of answering it. i will just make one little nugget to add, and you heard andrew weissmann tell the judge the core of their inquiry, at the c

senator, i want to give you a chance to respond to andy mccabe. >> let me say first, margaret, i'm stillbit of a stooper at mayor hickenlooper's shame at having once been a capitalist. i can't -- i've seen it all now. but i'll save that for another day. mr. mccabe is one of the people responsible for politicizing the premier law enforcement agency in the history of the world. the f.b.i. he's not only the one. but it's clear that he and others and n2016, some were for trump, some were for clinton, but they acted on their political beliefs, and they hurt the f.b.i. badly. for that all of them, not just mr. mccabe, but all of them should hang their head in shame and put their head in bag. >> brennan: senator, this needs more conversation. we're going to take a quick break. i want the talk to you more about this in just a moment. good ideas go to waste. 't y at bp, we see possibilities everywhere. to help the world keep advancing. to severe plaque psoriasis get clearer. and stay clearer. most patients who saw 90% clearer skin at 28 weeks stayed clearer through 48 weeks. tremfya® may lower yo

potential collusion between russia and the trump campaign the man who launched it was later fired andy mccabe is making some very serious claims as to why we had information that led us to believe that there might be a threat to national security in this case that the president himself might in fact be a threat to the united states' national security but it was only after the president stepped in to fire his then f.b.i. director james comey the moeller was appointed now looking into collusion and possible obstruction of justice because of coma's claim that the president had asked him to and investigation into the national security advisor michael flynn it's illegal to interfere in a federal investigation trump himself seemed to confirm in an interview with n.b.c. news that komi was fired because of the russian investigation in fact when i decided to just do it i said to myself i said you know. this rush or thing with trump and russia is a made up story it's an excuse by the democrats for having lost an election that they should've won then he later told russian officials in the oval office th

potential collusion between russia and the trump campaign the man who launched it was later fired andy mccabe is making some very serious claims as to why we had information that led us to believe that there might be a threat. national security in this case that the president himself might in fact be a threat to the united states' national security but it was only after the president stepped in to fire his then f.b.i. director james comey the moeller was appointed now looking into collusion and possible obstruction of justice because of coma's claim that the president had asked him to and investigation into the national security advisor michael flynn it's illegal to interfere in a federal investigation trump himself seemed to confirm in an interview with n.b.c. news that komi was fired because of the russian investigation in fact when i decided to just do it i said to myself i said you know this rusher thing with trump and russia is a made up story it's an excuse by the democrats for having lost an election that they should have won then he later told russian officials in the oval office that

was indicted, information about hillary clinton and bruce orr and peter strock and lisa page and andy mccabe and others. >> brennan: that wasn't the special counsel or the counterintelligence investigation. that was a different case. >> well, actually, a great many of those documents, thousands of pages of those documents, pertained to the mueller investigation, were part of a counterintelligence investigation. there were fisa application materials that were declassified and made public. there were interviews that went into those applications and other materials that were pertaining to an ongoing investigation that had deep counterintelligence implications. so they did all of that. and they cannot maintain now that we only do that for republican congresses vis-a-vis democratic candidates. we won't share information, we won't be transparent about the trump investigation. that will never fly with congress, and it will never fly in the court if we have to go to court to insist on that evidence. >> brennan: it took robert mueller two years to come to these conclusions, and there were no indictme

they there inthowld criminal are referrals for jim baker, peter strzok, lisa page, andy mccabe and jim comey. kennedy: andy comey. >> you're right. he's the only one. but the department of justice hasn't acted on it yet. and all of these other actors who used their po position of influence at the fbi to spy on americans when they knew it was illegal should get criminal referrals and be held accountable. kennedy: the only actor doing good york wor work for this cous gary sinise nchts an. >> and james woods. >> kennedy: we had a run-in in the '90s although he was lovely, he wanted me to wear a catholic cool uniform to a game. thank you for bringing that up. let's talk about the legal fees that it costs people who are constantly subpoenaed by congress and those who have to testify before the grand jury who are never charged. michael caputo, one of the former attorneys said if congress forces him to testify he's going to take the fifth because every time he goes to one of these things it costs him 30,000 dollars in legal fees. >> i wish i had michael caputo's attorney and it was only 30,00

potential collusion between russia and the trump campaign the man who launched it was later fired andy mccabe is making some very serious claims as to why we had information that led us to believe that there might be a threat to national security in this case that the president himself might in fact be a threat to the united states' national security but it was only after the president stepped in to fire his then f.b.i. director james comey the moeller was appointed now looking into collusion and possible obstruction of justice. of coma's claim that the president had asked him to and investigation into the national security adviser michael flynn it's illegal to interfere in a federal investigation trump himself seemed to confirm in an interview with n.b.c. news that komi was fired because of the russian investigation in fact when i decided to just do it i said to myself i said you know this rusher thing with trump and russia is a made up story it's an excuse by the democrats for having lost an election that they should have won then he later told russian officials in the oval office that firi

you also invoked the name of andy mccabe. t's hear from mccabe and others who have been pushing this anti-trump narrative and we will talk on the other side. >> you still believe the president could be a russian asset? >> i think it's possible. i think that's why we started our investigation. and i'm really anxious to see where director mueller concludes that. >> more and more i come to a conclusion that after the helsinki performance and since that i really do wonder whether the russians have something on him. >> i used the term that this is nothing short of treasonous because it is the betrayal of the nation. he is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. pete: you gave them the benefit of the doubt by saying they weren't out to get him. they did a fair investigation. what if they were out to get him, which it looks like, and they still didn't find anything. >> when i said rosenstein and mueller weren't out to get them, as far as mccabe, page, strzok. i mean, clearly they made decisions and then they tried to fill in those decis

you're behaving just like everyone else who has got fired or didn't get the job they wanted like andy mccabe about like james comey same kind of selfish motivation after you don't get the thing you want. that's what i see here today i think that's what the american people see. >> our top story tonight president trump's first day in vietnam. a busy one, president trump signing a 20 billion dollar deal with vietnam for vietnam to buy boeing aircraft and technology. which would significantly reduce the 37 billion dollar u.s. trade deficit with vietnam. president trump then met with north korean leader kim jong-un that's where we lead off a tonight. chief white house correspondent john is roberts reporting from hanoi. >> the president is under pressure from both sides of the political aisle to make progress on kim's promise at last june's first summit that dismantle his nuclear program. it is unclear what the president and kim will sign. and the substance of a deal could shift during today's meetings. ideas that have been kicked around are, opening liaison offices in united states and north kore

he ought to be answering for his actions, andy mccabe answering for his actions.ntrol our government and the people elected representatives, including by the way the president of the united states. not the f.b.i. not people who had a political vendetta against this president. we need to get some answers here and put these people under oath. we need to get the facts. >> julie: president trump i want to move on to obamacare and the gop senators are divided over the obama/trump administration calling to overturn the obamacare act and is trying to find a replacement for obamacare a big mistake if that's at the forefront of the 2020 election? >> what's a big mistake is forcing people to continue to pay higher insurance premiums year after year. my state insurance premiums have gone up over 100% thanks to obamacare. nobody can afford it. now the democrats want to take away all private insurance and force everybody onto public plans. it is exactly the wrong thing to development we need to get health insurance and prescription drug costs down and need to move forward on d

this deputy andy mccabe has been referred for criminal prosecution. we hope lisa page and peter strzok are held accountable for use their badges and positions in the government to go after americans because they didn't like our politics. david: some terrific reporting by fox news showing there were discussions between the fbi and justice department occasions, they were worried the fbi was using political blogs as evidence to spy on americans. you are supposed to use evidence that's creditable. you are not supposed to use politically motivated blogs to obtain warrants. the way the fbi was used to try to overturn an election and disrupt an election before it actually happened is not only disgraceful, it comes very close to being a coup d'etat. would you agree? >> i agree 100%. again i ask the president to declassify the last five panels of the fisa application. we know the fbi was leaking information to media outlets to include those in additional fisa applications. the first fisa application they tried to spy on americans was denied because it was so o

with andy mccabe. john kelly and you saw it with don mcgahn. are officials not used to having to sit down and write down their objections to the actions they're being asked to take. >> i want to get you on what else you talked about in this piece. that rudy giuliani and the example he set, that example could in fact end up really hurting the president. >>. >> when you listen to cohen's testimony, listenedtalked, it se a mafia family. it sounded a lot like a racketeering enterprise. you had sort of a small number of key players. multiple crimes and conspiracies. that mod l of how to tackle a krups ber surprise was something that rudy giuliani really p perfected in the 1980s with the mafia. when he was attorney in southern district of new york. manhattan prosecutors who were now after president trump's businesses. they're the country's best at racketeering prosecutions. i'm sure they are sitting there looking at michael cohen's testimony last week looking at the evidence they've gathered and saying this looks a lot like one of rudy giuliani's ric

as you know, bruce ohr is a central figure just like andy mccabe. >> sean: the whole clinton bought andfor russian dossier lies, we knew that before the election that it's all not true. and steele said it himself. >> why it's so important, part of the reason i'm starting with twitter and these lawsuits and going onto the fake newsg stories, it's important to know who's behind putting up those fake news stories. >> sean: wow. we are going to follow this very closely. i think there is -- there's a lot to this story. a lot more than we meet the eye on the surface. congressmen, thank you for being with us. catherine herridge broke the t story on foxnews.com. when we come back, stay tuned with us. we are going to explain, many monologue, how this global warming, climate change, global cooling -- every instance is nothing but hysteria to literally advance the political agenda of socialism. that is next. ♪ >> sean: socialism on another angle, the left continues its push with the new green deal by pretending it's about saving the planet, we only have 12 years left. truth is, it's just an excuse

and andy mccabe describedte it as articulate facts.yone ever going to articulate what that says? all we have is the dossier. is anyone ever going to articulate what the actual facts are?he the answer is no because there are no facts. it will not work. and i'm sorry, but your of moron if you believe in this collusion hooks. i'm very sorry, but you're really stupid.li you believe in and aesop's fable. it did not happen. you believe in sasquatch. no, there is more evidence of sasquatch than this. there's photos. they may be fake, but there's photos. there is no evidence. >> tucker: i think there is upheld out there. a hair sample. [laughs] it's great to see you. i love it. dan bongino. >> thanks. >> tucker: alexandria ocasio-cortez says he ought to be excited a that the robots are coming for your job, and your reason to live. you won't have to work anymore. i wonder what that will be like. that's after the break ♪ >> tucker: it's obvious there's something really wrong. something bad going on at the center of americanis society. drug overd

the insurance policy lisa page, peter mccabe and andy mccabe, peter struck all sitting in a room saying, look he's not likely to win it but upon remote chance that he is, y which is buys that investigation come in and counterintelligence investigation that we launched in july. that was their insurance policy but they just never thought he was going to win. >> ed: pheasant that suggest was it started with a lie? >> trey: i viewed the mueller probe what russia did to this country in 2016. that part is not a lie. the second part of what mueller is doing is with him if anyone did they do it. i have seen no indictments. no convictions on the crime of collusion in part because there is not a crime. but when it's a conspiracy with the nc server, pack emails, no indictments have been the americans much wet -- much less trump campaign on either one of those. so i think mueller, russia yes, collusion, no. >> ed: got it. congressman i want to be quick because we are going after peter strzok. his approach -- his attorney said pete welcomes release of transcript contrary to the impression the presid

it was a quote of andy mccabe, he sort of ties the trump era at the end of his career when he was investigating russian organized crime and there's a quote from him, i think people think of following the money simply as a way of uncovering whether somebody's been involved in money laundering or a financial crime, which is, of course, important. but on a much more fundamental level. it's a way of understanding relationships and networks, to understand who the person that is interested in is connected to, who they're communicating with and who they're receiving money from or giving money to. it goes to proving an existence of an organization or rico, the racketeer corrupt influence organization act would say, an enterprise. all of these musings coming out of the southern district of new york, all of the undercountries of michael cohen's testimony and certainly this list released today of 81 targets from the house judiciary committee and what we know adam schiff has talked about, wanting to explore the house intel committee, suggests this may be precisely the framework around the question for the

and andy mccabe described it as articulable facts.rticulable meaning is someone going to articulate what these facts are? all we have is a hoax dossier and we've heard about these for two years! is anyone going to articulate what the actual facts are? the answer is no, because there are no facts. you all got work to, but i'm sorry, you are a if you believe this collusion hoax. i'm really sorry to tell you this. you are really stupid, you believe in and aesop's fable. there is no evidence. it did not happen! you believe in sasquatch -- no, there is more evidence of sasquatch! i mean, there are photos! it may be fixed, but there are photos! >> tucker: i think there is a hair sample, a pilot, i'm not sure. it's great to see you. your way on today. i love it. >> thanks, buddy. >> tucker: alexandria ocasio-cortez says you ought to be excited that the robots are coming for your jobs and your reasons to live for you don't have to be work anymore. wouldn't that be nice? that's next after the break. everyone's got to listen to mom. when it com

he starts as a counterintelligence, russian counterintelligence investigation, we know from andy mccabe that mccabe had added an obstruction element in there involving the president and that gets handed off to mueller and what does mueller do? he targets cohen and cohen's records and e-mails and phone records, and he does it early and almost immediately after he stands up his office. so what do i draw from that? i draw from that that russia plays prominently in this concern as well as the possibility of obstruction by the president. and mueller jumped right into that and targeted data coming out of cohen's office. >> chuck rosenberg, i have never sort of been able to get over the president's reaction on the day of the cohen raids, and i want to play some of it but i want to get you to weigh in first. the president clearly surprised, the president clearly scared, the president thinking he can turn this somehow to his advantage. on the mueller side, this was almost done after a point where they had so much reason to go looking for what they had that they could have done a lot of this inve

would that include someone like andy mccabe, the former acting fbi director who's under investigation now in the d.c. office? >> because i know what pardons are for. pardons are there for the powerless to show a little justice. that they need. pardons are not there as part of a plea agreement. that's somewhere else in the system. we reserve pardons for those people who didn't receive justice under the law. and i'm not there to say pardons are going to be part of a political horse trade of my administration. uh-uh. >> does that mean you would commit to saying you're never going to pardon anyone that worked directly for you? >> i -- i assume so. i don't know if any case why i would do that. this is about the powerless. that's what pardons are supposed to be about. not about people who have connections. not about people who -- not about people who have a way to be protected, who can hire the lawyers, who get to work their way through the system, who get the best representation. pardons are about one last way that we try to put a little justice back into a system that today is very unjust

character assassination, obstruction of justice, andy mccabe already admitted there was no effort tobstruct the investigation. it's nonsense. >> sean: i agree with you on the obstruction. probably innuendo, looking at what they fought together. a lot of people should be worried tonight in the deep state. when we come back, a lot more reaction to tonight's big breaking news, the mueller report is in. r there will be no further indictment coming. there are a lot of media people, the heat trumped media mob, they are crying right now, they are so upset. they have been lying for you for over two years. straight ahead. like savings of 25% on this 6.5 quart aluminum fish fryer. and save $250 on this garmin echomap plus chartplotter and fishfinder. your adventure starts here. this isn't just this is moving day with the best in-home wifi experience and millions of wifi hotspots to help you stay connected. and this is moving day with reliable service appointments in a two hour window so you're up and running in no time. show me decorating shows. this is staying connected with xfinity to make m

. >> ld three times under oath, andy mccabe is under investigation, jim baker chief counsel at the fbi demoted thenr left, unvestigation by the justice department. peter struck deputy head of counter intelligeeemoted then fired. lisa paige fbi counsel demoted and fired. >> two of those people kicked off theueller am. >> why does the president surround himself with people who can't tell the truth to law enforcement or congress? >> when havyou ever seen an agency where the top five people who by the way, chuck, ran the clinton igation, launched and ran the russian investigation, have either been fired, demoted or left the fbi, the top people? >> again, it doesn't -- you haven't awered the question i asked. why does the president has surrounded himselfe with peo who cannot tell the truth to law enforcement or congress? >> the president is surrounng himself with people that maybe he shouldn't, i don't know, but his campaignunning mr. manafort was there, part of the campaign, had been involved with republican politics fore. why h selected him i don't know. what i'm most concerned about is w

amy -- andy mccabe fired. >> you're upset that he was fired? >> no, listen, lied three times under oath and andrew mccabe is under investigation and demoted and left by the investigation by the justice department. peter strzok, demoted then fired. lisa page, fbi counsel demoted and fired. two of those people kicked off the mueller team. >> why does the president surround himself with people who can't tell the truth? you're not answering my question. why does not president surround himself with people who can't tell the truth to law enforcement or congress? >> where have you seen an agency who all five people, launched and ran the russian investigation, have either been fired, demoted or left the fbi, the top people? >> again, you haven't answered the question. why has the president surrounded himself with people who cannot tell the truth to law enforcement or congress? >> the president's surrounded himself with people that maybe he shouldn't, i don't know, but when he was running his campaign mr. manafort was there and part of the campaign and

information about hillary clinton, about bruce orr and andy mccabe and lisa page and peter strzok. for the department to maintain they never provide information in cases that doesn't result in an indictment is simply not true and 880,000 pages demonstrate that. they did so because there was an intense public interest and need to know and because congress insisted and the case for public disclosure here with allegations that are far more serious is much more compelling. in the case of hillary clinton who did not win the election, she was not in a position to cover up through the justice department any evidence of wrongdoing. this president is and this president there is i think all too much evidence has tried to interfere, has tried to obstruct and for that reason it is all the more income want transparent. if they fight this they damage the department's reputation and i think the same way that the supreme court when it decided bush and gore and threw out decades of president caused the public to view them as an institution. should barr adopt the double standard, i would damage the

the stuff jim comey, andy mccabe, peter strzok. all the things they started with.ged him to do that. >> will you urge him to order the release of the mueller report, as well? >> again, that's the attorney general's call. he's going to do it in accordance to the law. >> the president has the authority. are you asking the president to order the release of the mueller report? >> that's the president's call. he said he wants to it be made public. he said it the other day when he was walking, i think, out in front of the press, i think last wednesday he said that. that's the white house's call. >> you mentioned the hearing with michael cohen. as we know from the southern district of new york. they concluded the president was individual 1. who directed michael cohen to make the hush money payments. to influence the election. essentially directed a felony. does that concern you? >> michael cohen came in front of our committee, and he lied, we think, at least, seven times. that's why congressman meadows and i sent a criminal referral letter to the justice department. we kn

looking back on it i go back to what i said at the time andy mccabe was running this investigation.od had only been in office for roughly three weeks at the time. he didn't know the full details of the investigation. what he clearly did know was that andy mccabe was biased and should not be running this investigation. he hands it over to a special counsel bob mueller unquestionable integrity and unquestionable professionalism. now you have an investigation that's being done without bias to the president. if it finds something, well then that's important and we need to do something about it, and, if it doesn't find something, as it didn't, then it's untainted and it's going to be very difficult for people to say that that investigation was a sham investigation and that the fix was in and the average american is probably sitting there thinking to themselves well, look. this was a thorough investigation. it's over. let's finish this. steve: when you think about it though, ian. the fbi unleashed its powers on a candidate running for president of the united states tha. that is an amazing

one of the most alarming that's gotten buried and i'm not sure how is that andy mccabe said on one occasionan oval office briefing when they were discussing the threat that north korea posed to us by way of their ballistic missiles program, trump said i spoke to putin about it, all is good, we're safe, no threat from north korea. how is that not sort of siding with an adversary over your own intelligence community? i mean, it's a high crimes and misdemeanors jamboree at this point. there's so much, and i think we're doing a disservice to the american people by not saying we will not tolerate it, we're not going to wait for somebody else to announce the results of their findings in order to help do our dirty work. this is dirty work that must be done because the house needs to be cleaned. >> jill, i saw you nodding a bit. i have a question about the degree to which nancy pelosi can patiently stand by as these conversations continue on the periphery. i think there is a lot of agreement that investigations-wise, there's coordination, those proceeding apace. how long can it continue with these

are trying to do their work and doing a good job, they tarnished it, the top of it, jim comey, andy mccabeage, they we wanted to take down a dually elected president, jon hilsenrath. >> the good news is it looks like this is all coming towards a conclusion, the mueller conclusion. i will take the economic angle. the other good news is that we went through something like this in the 90's with all the whitewater investigations and the monica lewinsky scandal, what we learned in that is that the economy can do just fine when all the noise is happening in washington, economic boom in 1990's, stock market boom, the economy is doing well despite all of this 2 years of investigation. >> this is an amazing thing which is the american people despite 2 years of ridiculousness, the american people feel good about the country, it's never been so strong. despite all of this, you're right, people feel hopeful about america and the economy. maria: dagen, this is about fairness. everybody might feel great about the economy but for 2 years he's been playing defense. dagen: where is one thing that i have no

we've already done this investigation, the transcript we're talking about but the mindset of andy mccabeing and the things he has said since then. we've shown it bill barr has said there were issues that he is willing to look into. senator graham talked about that. this is a truth process. we have a policy agenda and we'll continue to talk about a president who has done great things with the economy, deregulation. we want to focus on those things but focus on the truth of what happened at d.o.j. >> sandra: how would you describe your colleagues in the house, the democrats, on this issue. are they with you? >> not really. the weekend was a tough time for them because i think they lost their first love. they got a note back from mr. mueller saying we want to break up because the collusion and obstruction wasn't there. they're trying to figure out what do they do next. sometimes they want to do other investigations because they still cannot get over the fact that donald trump became president and not hillary clinton. >> sandra: congressman doug collins. appreciate you coming on "america's n

documents, and he is cleared on the beginning point of this whole thing which was, according to andy mccabe, the backup plan of what to do in case he got elected. this was leaked in october before the election. i believe buzz feed had already printed it. they were talking about it in the last debate. the reason for john mccain coming up recently and the depositions, it was made known that they wanted to get a republican to introduce the uote-unquote the q fbi bloodstream because it would be more believable if it was presented by a republican rather than a democrat. but it had already been passed around all over the place. pieces of it and other parts were coming through. bruce orr, his wife. there is so much to come. host: given everything that you have laid out, do you believe that this mueller report and all the documentation, all of the evidence, should be brought to light for the public? caller: absolutely not. they changed the law after the special counsel in bill clinton because they released everything. they investigate a bunch of stuff and get people to say things that are not neces

i listened to andy mccabe on sunday. he acts like butter wouldn't melt in his mouth. everybody forgets he was fired from lying to the f.b.i. and getting involved in politics. now this with lisa page. look, these people have hurt badly the premier law enforcement agency in all of human history. and we're going to have to work really hard to build back the reputation of the f.b.i. because it is a well-deserved good reputation for most of the agents there. >> bill: is it your sense bob mueller is trying to wrestle with this? >> i hope so. if he doesn't, i hope that chairman graham, the head of the senate judiciary committee will. we have to lance this boil. it is okay to have political beliefs. this is america. but if you work for the f.b.i. or the justice department, you cannot act on them. and at the root of this problem you have a select group of people over there who think they're smarter and more virtuous than ordinary americans and that ordinary americans aren't smart enough to choose for themselves so these people at the f.b.i. the small group have to put their th

andy mccabe doesn't seem to remember in his book tour what they discussed with an insurance policy ases to the presidency of the united states. now, if i'm going to believe lisa page and what she says and if i understand the summary in which i read, it is essentially lisa page saying crossfire hurricane was an investigation into a possible russian infiltration into the trump campaign. they say being that we didn't think he was going to win, we could take our time. but in the event that you i do die before you are 40 we get we have an insurance policy something they admit in this copy and cross-examination they knew very little about. steve: the scary thing is the fact that this essentially lays bear. it sounds like there was a deep state. we have heard about that for a while. think about this. there is fbi investigation looking into things it's barack obama wants departmen's department ofjustict to charge her which the way the department of justice who decides anyway it's the fbi that just does the investigation. >> here is doug collins. >> the president has been unfairly attacked fro

ed: mccabe of course a reference to andy mccabe who is on his book tour saying the president might beuud on the show yesterday and i brought up the obama administration. i said you have to ask, what did president obama know, what did he know about the start of this investigation? what did he authorize? these are all valid questions. as we now find out, what was the justification for this lengthy investigation to begin with? pete: the justification of the lengthy investigation should have been the fact that mueller mueller's scope should have included that, if there was a ruse or a hoax to create, then that's part of -- in fact, that's part of empowering russia russia's influence or the perception of their influence on our process. it's all fed into it. well, there's still folks clinging to the mueller report. the chief clinger himself is eric swalwell, what's it called, collusion clinger. that's not my phrase. that's from joe conchy yesterday on our program. he's saying even though the mueller report is out he wants to see more of it. he's going to subpoena the un unredacted version o

took that information that he got are from steele and brought it directly to deputy fbi director andy mccabeff. so so all these efforts to try to say that this investigation, that a key component of the beginning of it was not the dossier have proven to be so much nonsense as we suspected. ed: and rod rosenstein, number two at justice, obvious, is on his way out now. seems fuzzy on the timeline about when he knew about bruce ohr's role and nelly other, his wife, and that's relevant because you had rosenstein signing off on these fisa warrants, among other officials, to get all this going. >> yeah, ed. and, you know, the amazing thing about that is, number one, you know, they went around and around and around about this when he testified, but he would not come out and say what i thought was obvious, which is he didn't read what he was signing. he was briefed on it, but he didn't read it -- ed: that's pretty scary if number two at justice didn't even read the fisa warrant. >> yeah. you know, where i come from in the southern district of new york, you know, the boss would call you at 3:00 in th

andy being the deputy fbi director andrew mccabe.ey were discussing how the russia investigation would be more important if trump became president. so what do you think of that? what do you make of that? >> well, they obviously had some early evidence. we really don't have much of any other than what's showed up in the form of indictments against the russians and some of the lies that the investigators have been against people who made a mistake in front of the grand jury. so they might know something there, and that might be a hint as to where things are headed. i'm waiting still as everybody else is on when mr. mueller's report comes out, and i think he will be indicting more people. >> so philip, lisa page is also asked about the text where she says god, trump is a loathsome human. she says it was during a republican debate where genitalia size was discussed. she clearly had an opinion of president trump or then candidate trump. do you think it mattered she was involved into an investigation into his campaign? >> i don't think it