and have let's bring in the fbi deputy director andy mccabe, who's a senior law enforcement analyst.hen you watch this, number one, as an investigator, the value of this direct on camera video evidence of one defendant in this case, but also obviously others in the scenes as well. >> priceless. in a word, priceless, john. as you try to build a case against someone you have to not only prove what they did, but what they were thinking when they did it to prove that element of criminal intent. and these videos, you know, a picture speaks a thousand words, these videos speak a million words. you see the fury, the blind rage that this man is in as he's taunting and harassing and following the capitol police officers. there's no way an attorney or an agent could stand in front of a jury and accurately convey that as well as these videos can. they are incredibly powerful evidence. >> they're incredibly powerful in a court of law as you say. i hope they're also incredibly powerful in the court of public opinion as we live through this period where over the last five months, but even in recen

i don't know what andy mccabe knows about terrorism but i will tell you this, we worked so hard in thefbi to make sure we did not make terrorism about religions and people and skin color. we tried to stay around facts and every time we did an operation that got away from facts and following the trail of the evidence we got in trouble and many times we got in trouble through doing what politicians wanted us to do at the time that our cities were burning. i'm talking about during the days of rage or ruby ridge when you had people murdered. shannon: they are killing their own credibility. they are doing to law enforcement, federal law enforcement what public health, fauci, has done to the medical field in government, the same politicization the devastate their credibility, terrible for the country. forget about the democrats and republicans, it is terrible for the country. this is the dhs secretary, mister mayorkas, speaking about these disturbing comments about garland, specifically monitoring internet communications. watch. >> we are working with social media companies to be able to bet

but don't worry, fbi deputy director andy mccabe was on hand to pretend like the shooter's motive was still up in the air. >> the fbi still doesn't exactly know what that shooter was up to. they never really uncovered the sort of detailed evidence that laid out a specific plot or an objective but it is undeniable that he was targeting republicans. >> laura: undeniable targeting republicans but it's still up in the air. you don't have any words at some point. real threats to our homeland are growing day by day, from cartels exploiting our wide open borders, raymond will talk about that in a moment, to chinese and russian hackers, to violent criminals coast-to-coast, but the threats highlighted by the political opportunists in the biden administration are vastly exaggerated. and it's all being done in an effort to ram through an agenda, a freedom-killing agenda that they cannot pass through congress, they know they can't pass this through congress. yet from chilling our first amendment suppression to denying military jobs to undesirables, biden's anti-domestic terror guidelines will ine

. >> andy mccabe, thank you, on all of this. >>> also this big headline over night. president obama criticizing republicans for embracing trump's big lie about the 2020 election. >> in a wide-ranging interview, obama spoke about the dangerous undercurrents inside the republican party today that began, he says, during his time in the white house. and eventually became the dominant message of the gop. >> sarah palin, about her brief ascendancy and you talk about dark spirits long lurking on the edges of the republican party coming center stage. did you ever think it would get this dark? >> no. i thought that there were enough guardrails institutionally that even after trump was elected, that you would have the so-called republican establishment who would say, okay, you know, it's a problem if the white house isn't -- doesn't seem to be concerned about russian meddling. or it's a problem if we have a president who is saying that, you know, neo-nazis marching in charlottesville, there are good people on both sides. that's a little beyond the pale. and the degree to which

and so as andy was pointing out -- as andy mccabe was pointing out there has to be some kind of deterrentand usually the deterrent is we catch the bad guys. the fbi finds the bad guys and puts them away. in this case especially if they're operating in russia or a place or a place where the u.s. doesn't have the ability to get to them this could serve as a deterrent. as you said it's a page that other companies perhaps can use. may not work in every instance. but at least in this case it appears there was good news to be had for the operators of the colonial pipeline. >> evan perez thank you for your reporting and breaking news. bring us back anything as soon as you get more developments. thank you very much. >> sure. >>> now more gun violence and heart break across america. at least 14 people were killed and dozens more injured in a spate of mass shootings throughout the weekend. several of the victims are young children. >> in new york, a 10-year-old boy was shot and killed saturday night when someone shot into a home in queens. police released this video showing someone approached the h

he wanted adam schiff investigated, he wanted andy mccabe investigated, he he said it publicly that schiffxample. so, barr, who told politico today that he didn't have any direct conversations with the. the about this, didn't have to because the president told everyone or anyone who would listen that this is what he wanted. so what barr did is he took a defunct investigation, it was over under sessions, they never found anything, and he reinvigorated it and then appointed someone to be in charge of it because the president of the united states still was not happy. and, you know, that is just an exploitation of the justice department and i think the congress needs to get to the bottom of it. the question is, once they get to the bottom of it, what can they actually do about it? who does bill barr answer to at this point as a private citizen? >> john, gloria borger, thank you for pointing out the remaining questions -- i should say, the questions just beginning today. next, a bipartisan group of senators gets to a deal on infrastructure. the white house is interested, but does it have the vo

jim comey, andy mccabe, adam schiff. after disclosure after disclosure, we see each of them repeatedly has been investigated by the justice department, have had their record subpoenaed. we look, it's not like there's never a case when the justice department can subpoena information from a member of congress. in political corruption cases, were members are targets of investigation, they have information turned over. there is a case when a senate intelligence committee staffer pled guilty to a leak three years ago, and had records seized by the justice department. it's not inherently wrong. for them to target a member, the chairman of the senate intelligence committee, and they go after people's family members, and when you overlay a couple of, things number on the fact there is no information yet that they targeted, we publican members of the house intelligence committee. when you conduct leak investigation, you look at all the people who might have had information, and when it disclosed it. obviously, the republicans wou

for instance, the investigation into former fbi director andy mccabe, acting director took about eightto complete, and that one was done on a quick timeline. so it's critical that the house engage in oversight functions. as in the case of mcgahn where it let that subpoena run for two years, it will be important for it to reassert its priorities and its determination to get this sort of information because it's important that we get a full picture of what went on here. it's not entirely clear. was this incidental collection of congressional data pursuant to a legitimate properly predicated investigation into leaks that could have impacted national security, or was this, as many people are concerned, some sort of inappropriate targeting of people in congress and others who had run afoul of the president? >> meanwhile, charlie, you've got some new reporting about garland's meeting with other targets, your paper, the "times," cnn, the "washington post." what can you tell us about what happened inside those conversations? >> well, under the rules that the media executives agreed to, they co

all of them, including james clapper, brennan, james comey, andy mccabe, all of these same names, theye never held accountable for what they did to this country and for what they did to the constitution and by the way, carter page. dan: yeah. no, sarah, that's right. we need accountability. thanks for staying on the storye i appreciate it. thanks for joining me. >> thank you, dan. dan: my heroes of the -- heroes of the week, up next. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. ♪ usaa ♪ no, he's not in his room. ♪♪ dad, why didn't you answer your phone? your mother loved this park. ♪♪ she did. was that your great-grandmother, keeping the family together? was that your grandfather, paving the way for change. did they brave mother nature... and walk away stronger? did they face the unknown,

they were on this and some of what was this public bluster, this accusing jim comey of treason and andy mccabe> regardless of whether or not they spoke privately, what we know for sure is that in the very first year of the trump administration, then attorney general jeff sessions had a major press conference where he said that he was, in fact, dramatically ratcheting up the d.o.j.'s investigations into leaks and he announced that the number of open leak probes had tripled. that was explicitly the leader of the justice department, the most powerful law enforcement official in the united states, telling everyone, including, perhaps, his most important audience of one, then president donald trump, that he was on it, that he was doing what the president wanted him to do. i covered that press conference, and it was very unusual, watching the attorney general appear to respond almost in realtime to tweets from the president. watching the attorney general appear to almost explicitly say, i've got you, boss, i have this handled, we're trying to hunt down these leakers. and what i can tell you is that

let me bring in right now former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. andy, what do you think of this announcement? >> kate, i think the first thing you have to say about it is that they did it at all. this is -- i've been working and following and tracking and overseeing terrorism investigations for two decades. this is the first time that i have ever seen a focus and a commitment at this level from across the federal government on domestic violent extremism. i think it's enormously significant and appropriate. it's acknowledging that domestic violent extremism is the biggest terror threat we face in this country. and the plan to me seems to be a pretty reasonable, pretty broad, all-encompassing effort to direct some resources at that threat. >> i thought it was significant, the attorney general said very clearly that the fbi's view, the top domestic violence extremist threat right now comes from racially and ethnically motivated violent extremists. he's talking about white supremacists. but he also took care to note extremism and attacks on all political p

i know you have an inspections division, which looked into andy mccabe's issue when he leaked information that he should not have leaked. is there some kind of internal investigation going on? director wray: as you have probably come to expect from me, i can't confirm any specific investigations. but what i can tell you -- rep. jordan: i'm not talking about an investigation, i'm talking about an internal investigation to actions that someone in your division may have leaked information to the press regarding the postmaster general. director wray: i would not confirm a specific investigation. we have our inspection division that has a unit dedicated to internal investigations. we have put our best people in it because of how important it is. we also, i stood up in the last administration in our counterintelligence division, a dedicated leak unit to pursue criminal investigations where that is appropriate. in some cases, they work with each other, because there is an administrative side. i can't confirm specific investigations. rep. jordan: i understand. i get that. i understand that. we ar

i know you have an inspections division, which looked into andy mccabe's issue when he leaked information that he should not have leaked. is there some kind of internal investigation going on? director wray: as you have probably come to expect from me, i can't confirm any specific investigations. but what i can tell you -- rep. jordan: i'm not talking about an investigation, i'm talking about an internal investigation to actions that someone in your division may have leaked information to the press regarding the postmaster general. director wray: i would not confirm a specific investigation. we have our inspection division that has a unit dedicated to internal investigations. we have put our best people in it because of how important it is. we also, i stood up in the last administration in our counterintelligence division, a dedicated leak unit to pursue criminal investigations where that is appropriate. in some cases, they work with each other, because there is an administrative side. i can't confirm specific investigations. rep. jordan: i understand. i get that. i understand that. we ar

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mccabe. good to see you, andy, welcome.y question is, the report was first requested in december before the january 6th. does that make january 6th an intel failure? because they had reason to look and then they disregarded the social media messaging and the days leading up to january 6th? is it an intel failure because they didn't take it seriously enough soon enough in the days before that maybe it would have helped them stop it? >> it could very well could be. they didn't actually produce a product in december when it was asked of them. it would be interesting to know what that product would have been. what the conclusions about qanon and more broadly, trump supporters and their propensity to trump supporter would have been. i suspect the fbi thinks very differently about those groups today than they can in december. in any case, this report delivered now after it was requested, indicates the fbi realizes they are watching a train about to crash, right? these koounl supporters, they believe very deeply in this, whatever

let's discuss this with abby phillips, also here, andrew mccabe, former deputy director of the fbi. great to see both of you. andylence across the country? >> i know from my own experience what the fbi does in these situations, and it sounds like what the deputy attorney general has already planned, to surge resources in the form of agents and also analysts into those cities that are experiencing these really troubling rises in murder rates and shootings. the idea of these resources is to target specifically gun crimes. gun crimes in some places are policed and prosecuted at different rates. so the idea is to increase the policing and specifically the prosecution and ultimately the sentencing of people for gun crimes in an effort to both put gun criminals in jail and keep them there, and also to send the message to the community, if you're caught committing a crime and you have a gun on you, you will experience much more severe consequences. >> abby, let's talk about the political consequences. caitlin mentioned the 1994 crime bill, that's in the deep background, and present day, the defund the police sector of t

mccabe, the former director of the fbi. he is the author of "the threat: how the office protects america in the age of terror and trump." thank you, andyt. good to see you. we now have this report on the insurrection, but it ignores trump's responsibility. is that a mistake? >> of course it is. we have a detailed and broad scope report, but what we don't have is a complete report. the report, as you mentioned, ignores the impact the former president had on the rally that ultimately led to the riot. the report refrains from even referring to to an insurrection, that was a bad word they couldn't use, and it doesn't even go so far as to call out the big lie. with those kind of fundamental inadequacies, it's hard to see how we get much out of this. one of the my concerns about this report is it provides a bit of a fig leaf. it kind of creates an excuse for republicans and others on the hill to say that we don't really need to go any further, which further undercuts our ability to get a legitimate commission that's going to look deeply into these agencies and really get to the root cause of mappwhat happ on the 6th. >> i don't know if you s