it's not like a cash transaction with rich hill when andy mcphail just collected the change between thebe a player coming back. we don't know yet. chad moehler offers the same things that greg zaun does, he is a pack stop. he will block the pitches in the dirt and will block the trade. the question is, why do you make the trade? it's interesting, dave trembley says he wants matt wieters to start playing more regularly, maybe six times a week. they brought him along slowly. matt wieters is excite. he says he has never been playing this little. greg zaun was a starter, now, twice a week. and then they're going to say, hey, can you play once a week? and chat moehler, you know, he has not played. greg gets to play in tampa where he has a home. >> chris tillman comes to the big league very touted minor league pitcher, 8-6, .270 e.r.a. very impressive. the first two games were so so in my mind. detroit was a disaster for him. yesterday, he actually pitched in a fame and i loved what i saw. what are your impressions? >> he didn't throw. he pitched. any impression with chris tillman, he is 21 y