andy slavitt,'d like the start with you. today you described this executive order as long on propaganda, short on details, plenty of sabotage. i wonder if you could explain. >> thanks for having me on, william. i think what's important to understand is the executive order is a first step in trying to do by fiat what congress refused to do in repealing the aca. it essentially, as you described it, will set up two pools, a set of rules for insurers who will be lightly regulated and be able to offer insurance products that don't have to contain the services like ma turnty services, and then the other pool of services, which will be the aca plans, which will, because they will also sit right aside the other plans, we know what will happen, the prices of those plans will go up, and it will make it much more expensive for folks to get coverage some we'll have to see the details. this first step, though, looks exactly hike what we expected. >> brangham: avik roy, you have been a critic of the affordable care act plan in the past. i

tweeting extensive how the executive order is another sabotage in the campaign, andy slavitt, good to have you here. >> great to be here. >> you know this inside and out. let's start with what do you mean -- i love the term synthetic repeal, what's that mean? >> look, the republican party and trump ran seven years of raising nine figures of money on a promise that they would simply repeal and replace the aca. so going back as we go into 2018, an election year, oh, we can't do it, it's not a possibility. so i think left to his own devices, they're coming up with everything they can do to say, forget john mccain, he's a rhino, we're going to be able to do everything that we promised to do through this executive order and by cutting some medicaid through the tax bill. >> so i guess what does that mean for people? so the executive order today combined with what they've been doing. what does that mean for the landscape of health care? >> think about the major pieces of repeal. one of them was that they were going to remove the federal protections against pre-existing conditions. according

it is what andy slavitt who used to run medicare say is synthetic repeal it is a step to try to undermine the health insurance market in this back door way through executive ordered. and i find it quite worrisome. >> dickerson: rather the idea is repeal -- it is just repeal? and no replace? is that the a, is that the way au am administration handed a lot of tools to the trump administration in this regard, because they did things like hand out all of these hardship exemptions, for example, to the individual mandate. that president can now be relied on by the president trump to hand out more such exemptions and neuter the individual mandate so there is a range of the executive action the trump administration can do to undermine obamacare and force the domes the table, i am a sure that is one of the things they are thinking about when they, when they go to these actions. >> dickerson: finally susan on a democratic question, feinstein gave a lot of "new york times" the blockbuster a pattern of sexual abuse from. >> does this put democrats in a spot how much money he has given to the parties

andy slavitt is here. robert moffitt, i know him by bob. dy, you did a lot of tweeting yesterday, and i thought it was very interesting. you seem to like the alexander-murray bill. is that right? >> i like anything that has both parties putting their fingerprint on something. in recognizing that republicans refer to this is a short-term pass for repeal. democrats alike to see this for them to work better. what the american public wants to see is of the benefit of something like this that has an immediate impact on their premiums, and reduces the federal deficit. importantly, expiate the first step and a long, long slide of back and forth over the last seven if not ten years of parties essentially saying this is going to be winner-take-all. i'm hopeful. >> dana: bob, earlier in the way, president trump initially signaled that he would be supported of the bipartisan effort. he pulled it back later in the day. there are conservatives who are concerned about it. even though it's a short-term fix, is this something you would not be able to suppor