joining us now, andy slavitt. mr. slavitt, thanks for making time to be here tonight.s for your expertise. >> thank you, rachel. thank you for your focus on this really incredible, important story. >> let me ask you if there's anything that i have said about it -- you can probably tell i feel emotional about it. it has literally been keeping me up. in the way i have been talking about it as a layman observing these things, am i saying anything that strikes you as wrong or feels like the wrong approach to this as a problem? >> the only thing strange is you're almost the only one saying it. let's step back a second. there's 1.5 million americans living in nursing homes today. there's about 15,000 nursing homes in the country. many of them are quite small, and think about who these folks are. people over 80 today were born at or around the great depression. many of them served in the korean war. they have lived through so much in this country. and the promise that medicare and medicaid in our country owes to these people is a dignified life, a healthy life, and a peaceful

i want to thank andy slavitt, katty kay, dr. bhadelia and andy preis. >>> and an interview with mark cuban. and companies getting breaks not for them but for smaller businesses on main street. >>> what sports teams will do in this new reality. >>> and the growing debate about how to reopen. why expert says we need way more testing. two special tests on what openings could do when you look at the economic disparities across america. an important aspect of this that we think needs more attention. all of that coming up. i'm ari melber. you're watching "the beat" on msnbc. msnbc. and private clouds, and hybrid clouds- things can get a bit cloudy for you. but now, there's the dell technologies cloud, powered by vmware. a single hub for a consistent operating experience across all your clouds. that should clear things up. stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. and take. it. on... ...with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill... ...can dramatically improve symptoms... rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. and for some-ri

and provide income support while people are isolated andy slavitt teamed up with former f.d.a. issioner scott gottlieb and many others on this blueprint. he is the former head of medicare and medicaid under president obama. is andy slaferrity slagofility to you have with us again, they swre heard so much about test, they artalking about it again at the white house. the united states has a long way this proposal are you not focusing on testing, why not? >> well, we have to improve our tetionz. we have to limit our case count. but once we do that, once wes reduced our and begin to reopen we have to give states the tools to prevent what we lived through the last month, judy, i would say is the equivalent of a forest fire. what we have to dos pevent forest fires from breaking out so we can catch things wen they e little camp fires. and in order to do that we have to have the ability to surround the outbreak as it happens. so it doesn't spread into and what that will mean as you tests positive, we want to help them figure out who are the people they ve been in contact with, this is t

former officials from republican and democratic administrations andy slavitt.rom the obama administration, dr. mark mcclelland from president george w. bush administration. listen, dr. mcclellan, phase two of your plan is about reopening state by state. but as we have seen in countries around the world, they are struggling with imported cases. how do we stop that in states opening simply? >> there is always going to be a risk of another outbreak happening until we get a vaccine and until we get immunity for most americans against this virus. so when we get the current cases under control, we need to have a very aggressive approach to testing, detecting, identifying any new outbreak so if there is an imported case, someone comes from another area or if there is just a little bit of a smoldering remainder of the viral outbreak, we can get on top of it quickly. so that's why lots of testing, and public health and health care surveillance system are really important. health care is going to be different when we reopen. it's going to have to pay a lot more attention

andy slavitt is here. he's former acting head of the healthcare for the obama administration.nd the host of a new podcast "in the bubble." and dr. mark mcclellan is here, as well, former fda commission under george w. bush. gentlemen, thank you so much. appreciate you joining us. dr. mcclellan, i am going to start with you first because you co-authored a report that provides a roadmap for getting the country back on its feet with phase one slowly -- slowing the spread, you said. phase two, reopening state by state. phase three, establishing protection and lifting all restrictions. what is -- what is it going to take to get to phase three? and how long do we have until then? >> don, we have a ways to go. we are in phase one now. in fact, the next few weeks are going to be really tough in many parts of the united states. so to get past that, we need to keep doing all of the distancing measures, all the things that we, every one of us, needs to do to help slow down the spread of this virus. we need to keep helping hospitals with the surge capacity they need. we need to keep incre

andy slavitt, good to have you, sir. >> hey, chris, how are you? >> one of the best opportunities i can afford on this show. tell me i'm wrong. yes, we're ramping up testing. yes, they're at 150,000 a day. but scale, brother. scale is not incremental if you need to hit a certain benchmark for it to be effective. and we're nowhere near it. so is progress enough for a pat on the back? >> look. i think that what the president would be smarter to do is to hit a number that he can stick to or beat. i think that's not in his nature. but if he said, look, by the end of june, we're going to have 3 million tests and i know it's not enough. but by july, we're going to have four. and then by -- you know, people will understand. they may not like it. but to continue to say that everybody has all the tests that they need, when everyone knows it's not their reality, it erodes trust. and so what he needs to do now is build trust. because the reality on the ground isn't changing. mayors from augusta to new york city to all over country, democrat and republican, th

andy slavitt. a very redoubtable leader in his own rite. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, chris. >> all right. the president versus science on coronavirus. this ongoing effort to downplay the science and scientists. and then, pitch wacky stuff. why? and why does it leave us? next. these days, it's anything but business as usual. that's why working together is more important than ever. at&t is committed to keeping you connected. so you can keep your patients cared for. your customers served. your students inspired. and your employees closer than ever. our network is resilient. our people are strong. our job is to keep your business connected . it's what we've always done. it's what we'll always do. >>> all right. let's just get a little context for what's going on now with the message from the top and what it means for our overall public health policy. we had the president openly supporting the drug, hydrochloroquine, that had not been proven. the research, since then, has been sketchy. but got to stay open. we will see what the scien

roy, andy slavitt, and steve schmidt, each of you. this is our special coverage. we've been looking at the white house coronavirus task force briefing. we turn now to an interview with one of the governors on the front lines, governor mike dewine of ohio. thanks for joining me. >> good to be with you, thank you. >> you've outlined starting up parts of your state, life, economy, in early may. what does that look like, what are you getting ohio ready for? >> we're trying to get back. we're going to do it very slowly. we're going to do it very carefully. i think the important thing is that we can't go on forever with the economy down as low as it is. we have to get people jobs. but we have to do it in a very rational way. so one of the things we've observed in the last three to four weeks since we've only had essential businesses is that many of these essential businesses have done a really bang-up job, they've done a very good job, they're taking people's temperatures when they come in. they've got the protective gear on. they've got masks on. they're doing the righ

help each other and remove people away from nursing homes that aren't safe into ones that are. >> andy slavitt, please send me that tweet, i'll make sure i post it so everybody can see it. we appreciate your time. good luck out there. >>> as we approach the top of the hour, another quick break for us. but on the other side, nbc news has an inside look at the white house coronavirus task force. new reporting that shows a federal government failing to act when it should have and where it should have. and inserting itself where it should not. (soft music) - [female vo] restaurants are facing a crisis. and they're counting on your takeout and delivery orders to make it through. grubhub. together we can help save the restaurants we love. we're returning $2 billion dollars to our auto policyholders through may 31st. because now, more than ever, being a good neighbor means everything. like a good neighbor, state farm is there. being a good neighbor means everything. saturpain happens. aleve it. aleve is proven stronger and longer on pain than tylenol. when pain happens, aleve it. all day strong. >>>

so far this year chicago right now think we really stick to that but former cms administrator andy slavitt argues the federal government will have to spend the money either way we can spend less if we keep people healthier more. if we wait until they get sick or so far president trump has chosen to give hospitals money to treat uninsured coronavirus patients rather than encourage states to expand their medicaid coverage in washington, i'm jessi to norm. >>northern california victims of the 2017 2018 wildfires caused by pg and e we'll have at least million siphoned off from a $13.5 billion fund for their losses. a bankruptcy judge says he'll approve fat after pg and e and a committee representing the victims they agreed on a budget for administering that fund to thousands of people. some people had feared that because of the pen death of the pandemic victims would never seen any settlement money. it has been a beautiful day, some changes in store, let's a check in with on the forecast with my bree sir roderick us again my braces. >>hi catherine yeah, and we definitely noticed cooler tempera

. >> andy slavitt, as always, thank you so much for taking a little bit of time with us tonight. i really appreciate it. >>> joining me now is the governor of the state which had the earliest confirmed cases but had public health officials in the state who actually violated guidelines from the centers for disease control to start testing and discovered one of the first cases. washington governor jay inslee. governor, let me start on this timeline question because washington was very early in this, early in terms of detect and then early in action. we saw the santa clara county medical examiner is actually performing autopsies on bodies that they suspect may have been felled by the virus. do you -- is there any surveillance like that happening or any sort of idea in your state to be looking towards that to maybe better pinpoint when this started so that we can get more information about what exactly the exposure of the virus has been? >> not to my knowledge. if that's going on, i haven't heard about it. we have had the benefit of some of the best geneticists in the world who have

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one of the big success stories of a trump presidency was dismissed andy slavitt manufacture was alwaysdent trump empirically there was a multibillion-dollar manufacturing opening in our country and he filled it and he filled it really well. in fact, we send huge increase in manufacturing dropped since president trump took office. the final point is this, which is, i go back to the college argument and i encourage everyone in this room to take this to heart, , which is we asa country treat people that go to college far more intelligent and why some people who didn't go to college. the media propaganda, notice how they do it, through public approval. notice on tv where they say approval rating of the present for college educated people is this an noncollege educated people is this pick what i do really saying? here's what the smart people think and here's what the dumb people think. if you give me one of people who didn't go to college or did go to college, my experience would be if you didn't go to college are far more wise and humble and hard-working than people that actually did go to

i'm joined by andrew slavitt former acting administrator of the centers for medicare and medicaid during the obama administration he joins us from minnesota what's your reaction andy to.