andy stern, is this part of your power of persuasion or persuasion of power? so you have a problem with the bashing of teachers? >> yes. i am a new jerseyen, so you're probably aware of governor christie. he is not very fond of teachers. >> glenn: hang on, you disagree. julie? >> i'm a teacher in new jersey, too. i was embarrassed when i went to the union meeting how he wanted the teachers to take a pay decrease for a year. i said why not? if it would save jobs of my colleagues, yes. our union stood up and said nope, he is a bully and he should tax people making over $400,000. it was embarrassing to me, that how educators talk about him in an unfair way and distorting things. i don't think when the union in wisconsin was acting that way in their own state capitol building they did themselves any favors for public relations. i don't worry so much about -- >> glenn: i worry honestly, i worry about julie on what you are saying here. i worry about teachers because the unions, it's a political machine. make no mistake. afl-cio is a political machine. you know, trum