it's andy warhol and president jimmy carter, and it looks like a warhol portrait of carter, correct? >> that's correct. you know, andy warhol painted these portraits of, limited-edition portraits of jimmy carter, and the carter presidential campaign basically traded them for political donations around the country. you know, it was a wise thing to do at the time politically speaking because the country had just gone through watergate, and really they were very distrustful of anyone from washington or anything that represented washington, and i don't think you can get any farther away from washington than andy warhol. so this actually was tremendously effective for carter in raising money. it actually was credited, he credited it himself as being one of the financial turn arounds of his entire presidential campaign, selling these andy warhol prints. >> now, your day job you're a political strategist. do you ever tell your clients to invoke a celebrity endorsement? >> no, i really stay away from that. but, you know, in -- we live sort of in the age where obama and oprah were a team, and