. >> they also brought in angela erin's running the retail side.o you see an emphasis on the statement that products made, as opposed to what they can do? >> it has always been that way. think about why we wanted to buy apple. we believe in steve jobs. >> is about the best product or is it about the religion? >> the best product as part quality, part reception. restaurant because of someone told me is great, it is great. >> is apple the best? >> it is the best right now. >> at what? >> at making us feel something about technology but others are coming up. >> does the samsung have a chance of unseating apple? >> oh, definitely. everyone is out there. a tough playing field. approachs jony ives' to design? >> i had pizza with him once. it was really fun. what struck me most is as icn or great designers who have done things that scale, they are good leaders. the first thing they say is "i am so proud of my team." >> how special is he, though? >> i think he was especially special because you worked with steve jobs closely. that relationship as part of w