and angela hunt whose gram my-award winning song writer did "empire state of mind" with alicia.. she i were singing around. i don't usually collaborate with someone on melody. she went up to this -- ♪ oh, babe, it hurts ♪ . she says, that, i don't know if i can sing it. i tried and i hit it. it's a prt of my singing i don't use often. because it was someone else guiding me, i did it. i'm a little out of my zone on a couple of these. yet it makes for really good music. >> that's a good thing. have you noticed -- you were describing your voice a moment ago. can you tell, can you hear, has your voice changed over the 25 years? >> my voice has gotten healthier. >> right. >> i have noticed the change. i listened to the older records. there are different times in my life. different albums where i can hear the different health i had when i was still eating sugar. the healthier my body is, the healthier my voice is. it's like a muscle. like an athlete. >> that makes sense. >> absolutely. when my nutrition and general state of health, sleep. state of health, sleep. so i think this is the stro

angela told rick where his mother was. nor is it clear whether he set off across the desert to hunt down his mother or see his wife.etty extraordinary to want to kill your own mother, isn't it? >> well, when your mother [ muted ] you as a child, and instead of being your mother, loving and, you know, and endearing and teaching you in the right ways and stuff, when you [ muted ] your little boy, that will do that to you. that might make you want to kill your mother when you grow up. it really does [ muted ] your head up. >> but yeah, i mean, i guess i said all i can say. what can i say, you know? oh, have a peaceful, happy life. i tried. i did. maybe i didn't try hard enough. i gave it what i could, you know? i did. >> he wanted to understand. he wanted to care. and he wanted to do something about the pain that i had suffered and others had suffered like himself. >> you know, i think many times about why, why did you have to do it that way? why would he cross that line to actually kill someone? and you know what? and the only thing i can think of is because i think he realized that that's what it would take, somethi