angela kelley is vice president we talk with an advocate and opponent of the legislation: angela kelleyvice president for immigration policy and advocacy at the center for american progress; and mark krikorian is executive director of the center for immigration studies. thank you both for being here. well, as we said, the house is debating and voting tonight, the senate tomorrow. let's talk about the whys and the wherefores. angela kelley, you're in favor. what are the main reasons this should be enacted. >> sure. this is a limited program. it's for children and young adults who have been in the united states for at least five years. they're children and young adults that came at the age of 15 or younger. they can't be older than 29 to qualify. and what it does is it takes these kids who came through no choice of their own, their parents brought them, and it puts them on a conditional path. for ten years they're in a non-immigrant conditional status, can't get benefits, can't apply for their family members. they have to stay on the straight and narrow. after this period, presuming they

angela kelley, you're in favor. what are the main reasons this should be enacted. >> sure.s is a limited program. it's for children and young adults who have been in the united states for at least five years. they're children and young adults that came at the age of 15 or younger. they can't be older than 29 to qualify. and what it does is it takes these kids who came through no choice of their own, their parents brought them, and it puts them on a conditional path. for ten years they're in a non-immigrant conditiona status, can't get benefits, can't apply for their family members. they have to stay on the straight and narrow. after this period, presuming they meet the requirement, going to college or serving in the military for two years, they can apply for residency. seems like it's a reasonable program for kids who have grown up in the u.s., are very american, and it ensures they're working at microsoft and not mcdonald's their whole live >> reporter: mark krikorian, why is it a badd idea? >> the dream act, the actual piece of legislation, has a germ of a good idea and e