joining me live is angela stent, director of the centre for eurasian, russian and east european studiesnt to ask you first for your thoughts on what president zelensky said today. he wants ukrainian territory under his control to be put under nato protection and then essentially cede the rest to russia to be deal with later. what do you think he s getting at? this is something that's been in the airfor a this is something that's been in the airfora number of this is something that's been in the airfor a number of months. this is the model of west germany when it joined nato and of course the eastern part of germany was occupied, essentially by the soviet union, so this idea would be that nato would offer membership to those parts of ukraine that the ukrainian government controls. the rest of that territory would not be in nato at the moment with the idea being that eventually ukraine would be fully united, which would essentially happen a0 years later. that was a matter of decades. is this a realistic framework do you think? a, this a realistic framework do you think? ~ , ., , .,, this