angela van den bogerd _ that stood out for me. angela van den bogerd has _ that stood out for me. ht when this inquiry session started today, when the case of martin griffiths was brought up, one of the most devastating stories to come out of the scandal. he was a sub—postmaster who took his own life by stepping in front of a bus in 2013 after his family accuse the post office of hounding him for tens of thousands of pounds. you may remember what the inquiry heard todayis remember what the inquiry heard today is the post office then offered the widow £140,000, but in exchange for confidentiality. she had to sign an nda and then dropping their claim that was live current and that mediation scheme which could have eventually cleared his name, given he had mentioned he was having doubts about the horizon system are believed to could be behind some of the shortfalls he was saying. the inquiry counsel called it a drip feeding of money, so that the widow would stay silent and bake could hush all of this up. you the widow would stay silent and bake could hush all of this up.— could hush a

in saying it's a big day, what are we expecting intensive angela van den bogerd's evidence? bogerd's evidence? it is a big da and den bogerd's evidence? it is a big day and it's _ den bogerd's evidence? it is a big day and it's one _ den bogerd's evidence? it is a big day and it's one of _ den bogerd's evidence? it is a big day and it's one of many - day and it's one of many sub—postmasters including the ones behind me have been waiting for and part of the reason for that angela van den bogerd oversaw many of their complaints and oversaw some of the problems with the horizon it schedule. she was also heavily involved in the mediation scheme that failed between the post office and sub—postmasters. there's so much attention around the former chief executive paula vennells. when she gave evidence to mps about issues to do with the mediation scheme as well asissues do with the mediation scheme as well as issues to do with the post offices disclosure to sub—postmasters and investigators, she said it's the first she had heard of some of the issues and in her words, angela has been

angela van _ important. they're talking about angela van den _ important. they're talking about angela van den bogerd, the - important. they're talking about| angela van den bogerd, the post office executive described as knowing more about horizon as anyone else. many of us know a lot more about her too, after the drama showing her closely involved she was. ~ . , ., showing her closely involved she was. . , ., was. we are so sorry for your loss. so what was. we are so sorry for your loss. 50 what is — was. we are so sorry for your loss. 50 what is her _ was. we are so sorry for your loss. so what is her story _ was. we are so sorry for your loss. so what is her story today? - was. we are so sorry for your loss. so what is her story today? it - so what is her story today? it started with an apology. i’m so what is her story today? it started with an apology. i'm sorry for the devastation _ started with an apology. i'm sorry for the devastation caused - started with an apology. i'm sorry for the devastation caused to - started with an apology. i'm sorry for the devastation caused to you | for the devas

angela van - know. what does it mean to you to see somebody like angela van den| see somebody like angela van den bogerdnce to this inquiry?— to this inquiry? they have to give evidence but _ to this inquiry? they have to give evidence but they _ to this inquiry? they have to give evidence but they are _ to this inquiry? they have to give evidence but they are very - to this inquiry? they have to give evidence but they are very good l evidence but they are very good at saying _ evidence but they are very good at saying they don't remember or they don't _ saying they don't remember or they don't recait~ — saying they don't remember or they don't recall. as far as i'm concerned that's a no answer interview. _ concerned that's a no answer interview, they are just not doing what _ interview, they are just not doing what any— interview, they are just not doing what any normal person would do when they are _ what any normal person would do when they are asked to tell the truth, they're — they are asked to tell the truth, they're just not doing it.- they're 'ust not doing it. now, toda they're just not doing i

angela van den bogerd was someone in charge of overseeing this complaints in that case in particular.ce went about compensating the family for the entire episode. let's listen to the exchange. did family for the entire episode. let's listen to the exchange.— family for the entire episode. let's listen to the exchange. did you see an hinu listen to the exchange. did you see anything unsavoury _ listen to the exchange. did you see anything unsavoury in _ listen to the exchange. did you see anything unsavoury in using - listen to the exchange. did you see anything unsavoury in using money| listen to the exchange. did you see i anything unsavoury in using money as anything unsavoury in using money as a way— anything unsavoury in using money as a way of— anything unsavoury in using money as a way of ensuring mr griffiths's case _ a way of ensuring mr griffiths's case was — a way of ensuring mr griffiths's case was hushed up? it a way of ensuring mr griffiths's case was hushed up?— a way of ensuring mr griffiths's case was hushed up? it was nothing i discussed and — case was hushed up? it w

angela van den bogerd was personally in charge of some of the cases.the failed mediation scheme in 2019. she has been asked about one case in particular. that was the sub—postmaster at martin griffiths, who took his own life by stepping in front of that these family accuse the post office of hounding them for tens of tens of thousands of pounds. now, angela van den bogerd has admitted that faulty communications where the heart of how the can post office conducted its dealings. a letter from martin griffiths is daughter after his death complained about the disgusting way that there family had been handled after his death. she was asked about the £140,000 that death. she was asked about the £1a0,000 that was offered to martin griffiths in exchange for dropping any other legal course. even though his family had came under the mediation scheme at the time. she was also asked about this being an incentive for confidentiality. she did say that that was part of the incentive there. but she went along with it. she was asked whether that was the compassionate w

angela van den bogerd tells the public inquiry she never knowingly did anything wrong. i do want to say to everyone impacted by wrongful convictions and wrongful contract terminations that i am truly, truly sorry for the devastation caused to you, your family and friends. power sharing in scotland collapses the first minister says the snp's deal with the green party is over. the biggest rail overhaul in a generation. labour says it'll renationalise most passenger services if it wins the general election. and, history makers: meet the british sailors who are the first all—female crew to win a round—the—world yacht race. on bbc london, withjust a week to go until londoners vote coming up on bbc news, after a merseyside derby defeat, virgil van dijk questions his site's willingness to win the title. our livable out of the race? hello and welcome to the bbc news at one. she's been described as the post office executive who knew more about the horizon it scandal than anyone else. this morning, angela van de bogerd told the public inquiry that she was "truly, truly sorry" for

angela van den bogerd, a key executive in the horizon scandal, saying that she was asked there about post office branches knowing about it. she was asked, did you do anything about it? she said no. she said she didn't knowingly do anything wrong and wouldn't knowingly do anything wrong. quite a few denials from won when she was quizzed at the inquiry. in the meantime, another big story is happening in scotland. the governing snp has ended its power sharing agreement with the scottish greens and will lead a minority government at holyrood. it's understood the greens withdrew its support, following the scottish government's decision to scrap its 2030 climate target and the way it responded to a review of gender services. the snp has previously indicated it would form a minority administration if the coalition collapsed. is the coalition over? is the agreement of the snp over? these are pictures of the scottish green party co—leaders patrick harvie and lorna slater leaving bute house in edinburgh ahead of that cabinet meeting. mr harvie told journalists the decision was a "total "u—turn

angela van den bogerd has said that she is cooperating with the inquiry.ou. hello. there was another chilly start for many of us, a touch of frost here and there. we have been shivering for days, we would like something warmer. we have to wait until the middle of next week before the temperatures recover. but for today, we are forecasting sunshine and showers and yes, it's going to be on the cold side. here is the forecast for friday. i weather front close to the uk spells out cloud and rain for cornwall, devon, close to the uk spells out cloud and rainfor cornwall, devon, somerset perhaps along the southern counties too. i suspect some damp weather for wales and generally cloudy. north of that, it's a day of sunny spells and scattered clouds and occasional showers across northern england, but particularly across northern and eastern scotland. through this evening, if anything, the rain could turn heavierfor a time in the evening, if anything, the rain could turn heavier for a time in the south of the uk. certainly aligning along the m4, of the uk. certain

angela van den bogerd said she missed that e—mail. earing this morning, that the inquiry has been hearing, as i believe it was true at the time, i didn't recall that e—mail, that was not part of my knowledge at that point, and it's really up to the chair to determine whether those qualifications are good enough. find whether those qualifications are good enough-— whether those qualifications are tood enouah. : . , . good enough. and we are expecting that intui good enough. and we are expecting that inquiry to _ good enough. and we are expecting that inquiry to start _ good enough. and we are expecting that inquiry to start up _ good enough. and we are expecting that inquiry to start up soon. - good enough. and we are expecting that inquiry to start up soon. it - that inquiry to start up soon. it was interesting that at one point, angela van den bogerd was saying that the messaging and remote access kept changing from the post office, and there was a degree of frustration from the council saying that he is interested only in the facts. h

you were listening to the evidence from angela van den bogerd.existed in the system. she was. this the bugs existed in the system. she was- this is — the bugs existed in the system. sue: was. this is the the bugs existed in the system. sie: was. this is the height the bugs existed in the system. s“i9: was. this is the height of the inquiry, to understand what these former executives knew and when they knew it —— the heart of the inquiry. angela van den bogerd was at the post office for more than three decades and she personally handled a lot of these former sub—postmasters complaints about the horizon it issues when it comes to what she knew about the problems, it is crucial, but she may have received an e—mail in 2010, which came up several times today, that alerted her to some of the problems, but she says that she missed the e—mail and did not see it. this kind of goes back to her apology at the start of the hearing today, because she apologised to the victims and she said she is very sorry for how this has impacted them and their families. bu

angela van den bogerd was copied into various e—mails about remote access and there is evidence thatffice continued to deny it was possible for another eight years. is it a case of everyone missing it? or is it that the overriding objective is to defend very robustly the position that there is no remote access? that was never my position. i was certainly not trying to cover up or suppress or do anything along those lines. this man was wrongly convicted and sent to prison. he wasn't impressed. she is a hard stone woman and she is choosing her words carefully. - believable? no. see right through her. the inquiry heard this post office veteran laid the blame on fujitsu's door. she is back here again tomorrow. emma simpson, bbc news at the post office inquiry. two of the household cavalry horses who bolted and galloped through central london yesterday are in a "serious condition", having undergone surgery. the army says it's too early to know if they'll return to official duties. seven horses were spooked during a miliary exercise, with four unseating their riders. as chi chi izundu repo

victims who attended today and a lot of them have gathered today because of how central a figure angela van den bogerdbeen to the entire affair. her career at the post office spanned more than three decades. she personally oversaw a lot of the complaints to do with the horizon it system, complaints by the victims who attended and she was heavily involved in the 2013 mediation scheme between the sub—postmasters and the post office, a scheme that failed. she was also accused of having misled the court by a judge in a case that the post office lost. it was when alan bates, the champion of the story, the former sub—postmaster who flagged and campaigned the issue for decades, he took on the post office and one and her witness testimony was heavily criticised by the judge in the instance, so if anyone was going to have intimate knowledge of this entire affair, you would think it would be angela van den bogerd but what we have had a lot of today is similar to what we have heard from other executives in the past few weeks, that in hindsight it makes sense now but in her words, theseissues makes sense now but

the real _ angela van den bogerd? simple. the truth. the real truth, _ angela van den bogerd? think they are very blinkered people. i over your lives? not at all. i think i they are very blinkered people. they are only— they are very blinkered people. they are only interested _ they are very blinkered people. they are only interested in— they are very blinkered people. they are only interested in what _ they are very blinkered people. they are only interested in what goes - are only interested in what goes into their— are only interested in what goes into their bank _ are only interested in what goes into their bank accounts - are only interested in what goes into their bank accounts and - are only interested in what goes - into their bank accounts and getting the best— into their bank accounts and getting the bestiob — into their bank accounts and getting the bestiob they— into their bank accounts and getting the best job they can. _ into their bank accounts and getting the best job they can. what- into their bank accounts and getting the best job they can.— the best 'ob they

angela van den bogerd was the most important person in the legal action taken and wasjudged importantis our head of network services. she was paula vennells' right hand woman — one of the big characters in the drama at the centre of so many ruined lives. we're all so sorry for your loss. bogerd was personally involved in many cases. desperate — he was really desperate. and overseeing complaints from sub—postmasters. she was also involved in the mediation scheme, supposed to help them. angela van den bogerd, head of partnerships. here she is sitting next to ceo paula vennells before mps when they were told the post office had found no evidence of any miscarriages ofjustice. what we've wanted to do and been very committed to doing is doing a thorough investigation on each of the issues raised by each of the applications. we've not dragged our feet. but this was all part of the alleged cover up. i've managed to find some letters. later that year, parmod kalia got a letter from angela. he was wrongly convicted of stealing from his post office in 2001 and sent to prison. he wrote in after

as for angela van den bogerd, she left here with her credibility seriously challenged.eacher has admitted murdering her partner, whose body was found buried in their garden. the remains of nicholas billingham, who was 42, were discovered in northampton in march 2022, four months after he was last seen alive. fiona beal, who's 50, will be sentenced next month. the foreign office has summoned the russian ambassador, after a british man was charged over an alleged arson plot in london on businesses linked to ukraine. prosecutors claim the russian private military group wagner were involved. dylan earl, who's 20, along with four others, are the first people accused under new spy laws introduced last year. here's daniel sandford. this was the fire in east london last month that started what the head of scotland yard's counterterrorism command called a "highly significant investigation". two burning warehouses that led to two british men being charged under the new national security act with offences that amount to assisting russia. the businesses are owned by a ukrainian man

it's been hearing a second day of evidence from the former senior post office executive, angela van den bogerd about the horizon it system. she admitted to the inquiry that the post office asked gina griffiths, the wife of martin griffiths, to sign a non—disclosure agreement, alongside a settlement of 140,000 pounds, after mr griffiths killed himself in 2013. he'd been accused of having a shortfall in his accounts. the inquiry counsel, jason beer kc, asked her to explain the request. it's the long and short of it that you had a settlement on the basis of £1a0,000 payment, which figure applies to a completely different type of loss, you ensured that there was a nondisclosure agreement attached to that settlement and you agreed to the staging of payments to act as an incentive using money as a tool to keep the matter hushed up? it was never to keep the matter hushed up. any settlement agreement that the post office ever entered into was done with a nondisclosure agreement. why? because that was just the way they operated. take a step back, from the answer of an automaton. why does the post offic

angela van den bogerd's career spanned — scrutiny. ngela van den bogerd's career spanned more than three l career spanned more than three decades at the post office so it will take more than one day for the inquiry to understand what she knew and when she knew it. there is likely to be more questions about theissue likely to be more questions about the issue of remote access, the idea that fujitsu employees were able to tamper with branch accounts without sub—postmaster is knowing. when did she know that, and when should it have been disclosed to these victims who were wrongfully prosecuted? we also note several internal documents were commissioned by the post office and reports to understand that issue, how did that feed into the communications machine at the post office when angela van den bogerd has said that, at the post office, they did try to control the narrative with its use of language. the inquiry counsel is likely to want to drill down on what statements she made to mps and the media and whether those were true, and importan

angela van den bogerd, a former senior executive, has apologised for the "devastation" caused to branchrnoon. first, let's get more on another of our top stories. scotland's first minister is facing a no—confidence vote after ending his party's power—sharing agreement with the scottish greens this morning. humza yousaf said he came to the decision after tensions between his party, the snp, and the greens over the scrapping of key climate targets. its co—leader, lorna slater, has accused the snp of "selling out future generations". so how did the power sharing agreement in scotland come about? and what led to its collapse? my colleague, sofia bettiza, is in the newsroom to explain. the power—sharing deal between the snp and the greens in scotland has collapsed, so how did we get here? well, the arrangement was established in 2021, when nicola sturgeon was first minister. it meant that the two microlitres of the green party, you can see them here, became members of the government. in 2023, humza yousaf took over as leader of the snp, but since then there have been several issues that have

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angela van den bogerd was questioned by lawyers representing wrongly convicted sub—postmasters.illed himself, after being falsely accused of stealing £100,0000. emma simpson was at the inquiry: martin griffiths was facing financial ruin by the post office when he took his own life, in 2013. the losses were mounting, and he had been fined after an armed robbery at l his branch in cheshire.— pay the money back in order to carry on trading, otherwise they will close us down. they hounded him, they persecuted him, there did not | seem to be any end to it. the tv| drama showed angela paying gina a visit after his death. we are so sorry for your loss. desperate for financial help she later signed a deal that meant withdrawing from the mediation scheme, and being gagged. did you see anything unsavoury in case was hushed up? it didn't even enter my head, we discussed it with gina and the his brother. then a that questions were getting tou:her. : , , ., ._ the sense that is a lawyer in the room? ,�* , , got straight to it. you're worried now that if you admit that you knew about remote a

they're followed later this month by angela van den bogerd, whose role in the post office prosecutionubpostmasters has been heavily criticised. ex—chief executive paula vennells, who was stripped of her cbe earlier this year, will give three days of evidence in may. she will be asked about a draft report uncovered by the bbc, which shows the post office carried on using public money to fund court action, despite knowing its defence was untrue. in fenny compton, where the fightback began, victims told breakfast and the post office minister their battle was still farfrom won. the life is slipping away. i've spent now 37 years in the post office, so it feels like the life has been wasted. it feels like being stabbed in the back for serving the very people, for the very nation on behalf of the government. everybody's going to get through it. and the fact that when i was in hospital, the post office sent their own personal doctors to see if i was actually ill, that's what really hurt the most. the journey for all of us has been so painful that we feel— it every day, you know? and we still

he will be followed later this month by angela van den bogerd, whose role in their post office prosecution been heavily criticised. ex chief executive paula vennells, who was stripped of her cbe earlier this year, will give three days of evidence in may. nick reed, the post office chief executive, watched on as alan bates gave evidence. counsel to the inquiryjason beer are read out an internal post office memo that had said alan bates had been an unmanageable subpostmaster, and the memo said he did not follow instructions despite copious support. instructions despite copious su ort. ~ , ., instructions despite copious su--ort.~ ., , support. were you given copious su ort? support. were you given copious support? laughter _ support? laughter no. what alan bates has been describing this morning has been what it has been like fighting the post office over the last two decades. he talked about in a witness statement how the post office has been denying, lying, defending and attempting to discredit him and other subpostmasters after the last... over the last two decades. what we also heard abou

angela van den bogerd was a senior figure at the post office for a number of years., zoe conway, joins us from the inquiry in central london. the inquiry this morning has really been dominated by the story of martin griffiths, a sub—postmaster who took his own life in 2013. what they have been looking at is how the senior management at the post office behaved in the aftermath of his death. martin griffiths, a sub—postmaster in cheshire, for 18 years. the post office said he was responsible for tens of thousands of pounds of missing money. his contract, terminated, left a broken man. i appreciate you wouldn't have received this letter at the time. martin griffiths wrote to the post office in 2013, begging for help. "the financial strain on myself and my family is devastating and continues on a daily basis". but his family says — continues on a daily basis". but his family says the _ continues on a daily basis". but his family says the help _ continues on a daily basis". but his family says the help didn't - continues on a daily basis". but his family says the help did

angela van den bogerd dealt with many of the legal cases against sub—postmasters. know" whether two household cavalry horses will return to official duties, after they were injured when they bolted through central london yesterday. the horses —— named quaker and vida —— were spooked by the noise of builders moving rubble. they've been operated on and remain in a serious condition. three soldiers in a tight cyclist were taken to hospital in the incident —— three soldiers and a cyclist. it's starting to feel like we are into election season here in the uk as well. a first major announcement from labour today — they are promising to renationalise nearly all passenger rail services within five years if they win the next election. the party says a new public body, great british railways, will inherit the existing contracts when they expire, taking on responsibility for running all services. here's the labour leader, sir keir starmer. i want our railways to work properly with an absolute focus on passengers. at the moment, i think anybody using the railways would say the

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angela van den bogerd has been shown a letter from 2013 in which a sub—postmaster�*s daughter said she is at the inquiry in central london what you mentioned here the part where his case was being discussed was difficult for some victims here. one whispered the word disgusting. his story is one of the most devastating to come out of this scandal. he was a sub—postmaster who took his own life in 2013 by stepping in front of a bus. his family accuse the post office of having hounded him for tens of thousands of pounds. his daughter said that the way the post office had handled this in the following year was, disgusting. angela vander bogarde was handling that response and admitted the pr was always a consideration in the post office dealings. confirmed that they had offered the widow compensation but with strings attached. did you see anything unsavoury in using money as a way of ensuring mr griffith's case was hushed up? i mean, it wasn't something that i discussed with gina _ and her brother, and it didn't even enter my head that we would be . going down that road. this was the first i

angela van den bogerd has been giving evidence at the post office horizon enquiry — the flawed it systemranging miscarriage ofjustice. here's a little of what she had to say when she was challenged our correspondent azadeh moshiri has been at the inquiry throughout the day — shejoins me now. she is someone at the post office whose career spanned more than three decades. she personally oversaw a lot of complaints of former sub—postmasters about the horizon it system and she was involved in the 2013 mediation scheme. a lot of the victims have turned up today it's been one of the busiest days i've seen since the inquiry started this next phase. that's because partly they wanted to know what you had to say. she started with this message to them. firstly, ithink you make no concessions or admissions that you did anything wrong, correct? well, i didn't knowingly do anything wrong and i would never knowingly do anything wrong. you don't apologise for your role in any of the events being examined by the inquiry, do you? ithink, you know, and i've reflected on this quite a bit, you know, and the

angela van den bogerd dealt with many of the legal cases against sub—postmasters.urn to official duties, after they were injured when they bolted through central london yesterday. the horses, named quaker and vida, were spooked by the noise of builders moving rubble. they've been operated on and remain in a serious condition. the israeli war cabinet has been meeting today to discuss the military assault its planning on rafah in southern gaza. the prime minister netenyahu says the assault on the remaining hamas battalions in rafah is essential to completing the war aims. the white house remains unconvinced by the plan. us and israeli officials discussed it last week, those conversations are ongoing. but the plans are moving forward, there are new satellite images appearing of tented camps in southern gaza which are being prepared to receive those are currently sheltering in and around rafah. let me show you again the before and after pictures — you will see there row upon row of tents that are being set up to the west of khan younis. similar images near rafah as wel

angela van den bogerd tells the public inquiry she never knowingly did anything wrong.

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ok, that is where we are going to leave the post office inquiry, it has been hearing from angela van den bogerd was very secure and that every keystroke was recorded. amanda vanden bogarde was asked if she believed what paula vennells said. she said she did and added she had no reason not to believe her ceo and didn't know who had briefed her. she began the day with an apology to the wrongly convicted sub—postmasters, saying she was truly sorry for the devastation caused to them, their families and friends. she told the inquiry that she never knowingly did anything wrong in the horizon scandal. she was asked if she apologised for her role in the scandal knowing what she knows now. she said she apologised for not getting to the answer more quickly but the evidence she had, she said she did the best she could and blamed fujitsu for not being transparent. you can continue watching that evidence on the bbc iplayer and if you havejustjoined us and want a summary of the evidence that we have been hearing during the afternoon, we have a special live page on the bbc news website or app where you can ge

angela van den bogerd was the company?this morning, she offered an apology to the wrongly convicted sub—postmasters, saying, i'm truly sorry for the devastation caused to you, yourfamily and sorry for the devastation caused to you, your family and friends. let's return and listen in. ”i you, your family and friends. let's return and listen in.— return and listen in. "i found out this week _ return and listen in. "i found out this week that _ return and listen in. "i found out this week that fujitsu _ return and listen in. "i found out this week that fujitsu can - return and listen in. "i found out this week that fujitsu can put. return and listen in. "i found out this week that fujitsu can put an entry into a branch account remotely. came up when we were exploring solutions around a problem generated by the system following migration to horizon online is that this issue was quickly identified and a fix put in place, but it impacted 60 branches and meant a loss or gain incurred in a particular week in effect disappeared fro

they're followed later this month by angela van den bogerd, whose role in the post office prosecutionhas been heavily criticised. ex—chief executive paula vennells, who was stripped of her cbe earlier this year, will give three days of evidence in may. she will be asked about a draft report uncovered by the bbc, which shows the post office carried on using public money to fund court action, despite knowing its defence was untrue. in fenny compton, where the fightback began, victims told breakfast and the post office minister their battle was still farfrom won. the life is slipping away. i've spent now 37 years in the post office, so it feels like the life has been wasted. it feels like being stabbed in the back for serving the very people, for the very nation on behalf of the government. everybody's going to get through it. and the fact that when i was in hospital, the post office sent their own personal doctors to see if i was actually ill, that's what really hurt the most. the journey for all of us has been so painful that we feel— it every day, you know? and we still have to give e

angela van den bogerd, a top executive at the post office for many years, viewed by the ceo, the enquiry it faults. but over two days of questioning, she repeatedly insisted she lacked the skills or knowledge to investigate. the council for the enquiry showed his frustration. but the council for the enquiry showed his frustration.— his frustration. but why, take a step back _ his frustration. but why, take a step back from _ his frustration. but why, take a step back from the _ his frustration. but why, take a step back from the answer - his frustration. but why, take a step back from the answer of i his frustration. but why, take a | step back from the answer of an automata and. —— automaton. that is just world soup. automata and. -- automaton. that is just world soup-— just world soup. another suggested the horizon system _ just world soup. another suggested the horizon system could _ just world soup. another suggested the horizon system could be - just world soup. another suggested i the horizon system could be accessed remotely. pare the horizon system could be accessed remotel . : ,