joining us now is angelo carusone. is the activist who the first alleged that dump trump hired actors for his campaign. he is an executive vice president at media matters. mr. carusone, thank you for being us with. >> thank you for having me. >> so you wrote this up at medium.com. i'm following your logic. basically, why did you feel like something was off, that something didn't seem right and deserved more investigation? >> well, one, i mean i know that donald trump is pretty disreputable and two, that he thinks money can solve any problems, including not having a political base. and then, of course, there was my own personal experience. i have campaigned in the past. i've done events. i did an event one time at macy's where from my perspective, there was a large number of suspicious new yorkers that were casually going by the event saying how they had to go inside to purchase donald trump ties. and from my perspective, i said, wow, they must either be actors or paid staff. but i sort of shrugged it off. but i'm aware

his name is angelo carusone. now he says that at one point donald trump threatened to sue him for millions of dollars because of that campaign to get macy's to drop mr. trump. the lawsuit never happened and angelo carusewn carried on his work as being an anti-donald trump activist. when donald trum april announce the his presidential campaign yesterday, you might remember one of the things he did right off the top is make a very big deal about how many people were there at the trump tower in new york to see him make his presidential announcement. here's how that announcement started. >> wow! whoa! that is some group of people. thousands. so nice. thank you very much. that's really nice. thank you. it's great to be a trump tower. it's great to be in a wonderful city, new york. and it's an honor to have everybody here. this is beyond anybody's expectations. there's been no crowd like this. and i can tell you, some of the candidates they went in they didn't know the air conditioner didn't work. they sweated like dogs