commissioner norton: so i want to ask our deputy general council angie miller who i have to say much to her chagrin has become an expert on this topic and it's partly why i'm saying we don't want to bring this up again because she's tired of it. but just for one last hue ra if you could read the language that i would like to propose an amendment that i outlined earlier. >> if the commission on future credentialing or other appropriate state agency or law provides future guidance to allow one jrotc teacher to teach a course that offers p.e. credit without a p.e. credential or two, otherwise allow jrotc, they will allow to meet the p.e. requirement if feasible. >> i second. >> discussion on this? is there any question from the -- >> so i have a question. what regards on the waiver of the -- so we have a clear understanding that jrotc teachers are credentialed but are not credentialed the same way the way teachers are -- so many of our credential instructors don't have their b.a. which when all of our drentialed teachers do. so in the language that you just proposed is that -- how does