association, some popular books that were challenged or banned included "the hate u give," by angie thomasas deemed "anti-cop." "13 reasons why" -- it was banned for addressing teen suicide. even harry potter has been caught up in book banning. a priest at a catholic school in tennessee said reading the spells could, quote, " risk conjuring evil spirits." no one is a better champof here in washington, d.c., and i recently sat down with her about the importance of protecting reading for future generations. thanks for talking with me. carla: it's wonderful, and thank you, because this is the nation's library, and it represents what libraries do throughout the country, and communities, on campuses. soledad: have libraries changed dramatically? i mean, when i was a kid, i think libraries were thought of as very special and important. and in those many years, there was less investment. i think some people think they might be less relevant than they were years ago. carla: libraries are still special and important and in different ways. there are libraries that have sections called "beyond books,