whereas, on the whole, the anglican church tended to question every answer. imaginative church. yeah, i'm in church most sundays, at old saint paul's. i love that building. it traps the mystery of this hunger for transcendence for me. it's uncomfortable, i don't do god comfortably. a lot of people talk too comfortably about what, to me, is an unspeakable mystery. but i'd rather be in than out. do you still think of yourself as a christian? i think of myself as an agnostic christian. but i'm not interested in the labels. jesus is still very important to me. i never lostjesus. jesus was a challenger. he didn't prioritise institutional unity overjustice and truth. 0n the whole, people that prioritise institutional integrity overjustice and truth don't get crucified. i'm interested that you still go back to kelham hall, where it all started for you. is there part of you that imagines the monastic life you might have led? constantly, yes. it's hard to talk about it without tearing up, and i get weepy. but i go back to the graveyard, that's all that's left of the o

0n the whole, the anglican church has been forgiving. it has been a messy and muddled church.ey thought the only way it could survive was to become very conservative and give people a perfect package answer to every question, but on the whole, the anglican church attended the question of every answer. it's still a spacious, imaginative church. i'm in church most sundays at old saint paul's. i love that building. it looks at the mystery of transcendence for me. it's uncomfortable. i don't do god comfortably. i would rather be in than out. do you still think of yourself as a christian? i am an agnostic christian, but i'm not interested in the labels. jesus is still very important to me. i never lostjesus. jesus was a challenger — he didn't prioritise institutional unity overjustice and truth. 0n the whole, people that prioritise institutional integrity overjustice and truth don't get crucified. i'm interested that you still go back to kelham hall where it all started for you. is there a part of you that imagines the more monastic life you might have led? co nsta ntly, yea h. it'

he rose to become the leader of the anglican church in scotland. but he gradually lost faith in many of the certainties in christianity, including the existence of god. he finally resigned from the church, accusing it of cruelly persecuting gay people. so did his own loss of faith betray those he once preached to? richard holloway, welcome to hardtalk. at the age 01:14, you left your working—class home in the west of scotland and went off to a very austere place in england called kelham hall, to train as an anglican priest. to train, in effect, as a monk. what was that like?

that calvinism in general was the opposite of the anglican church. so what we have here is an argument that democracy is something that is suited only to certain peoples who had eight certain cultural history to them. >> well, if that's the case, what are these cultural prerequisites? and here the more i read wilson, the more i became persuaded that there was this dog that didn't bark. the dog that didn't bark was calvinism. and it was particularly the covenant of the presbyterian church. >> this was the template for wilson of how democracy comes about. now, i don't know how many of you belong to the group of churches that today can be called affiliated with presbyterians in terms of their domestic organization but it's not just churches. it's also reformed judaism and explained at least in part i think why wilson was so welcoming of jewish americans into princeton and then into his administration and also was protective of the notion of a jewish homeland in the far east. in the middle east. okay, so what we have been is the notion that you can strip

immediately afterwards they read a petition from the anglican church and it's very obvious that they knew about this petition beforehand, and in that petition they are asking for liberty of religious expression and association, as well as freedom from religious taxes associated with -- texas supporting the church of england. thenommittee of religion consisted of members of richard lee, james taylor, thomas jefferson, and he thinks james madison put on a puddle -- couple of states later. this links up quite nice with some of the lecture last night. later on, thomas jefferson has long departed from that committee, but later on the famous act for establishing religious freedom comes out of that committee. so, knowing that i've already thethrough most of my time, empirical analysis, i'm going to speed this up really quick here. from the virginia library archives they have conveniently categorized all the petitions sent to the house of delegates in that time, so we do various analyses with that, and find that about 2 out of 3 committees in that first session are predicted based on petitio

when i go into a church, i feel welcome as a fellow anglican, but there is always that paranoia. me? if you vote for this, it would be a way of saying that the church of england officially accepts people like me. and thinks that our identity is valid and will not try to invalidate us. please do it. it shows that the church likes transgender people and is inclusive, and it stops transgender people from shying away from faith out of fear they will not be accepted for who they really are. has there been any reaction from the transgender community? not yet, it only happened a a few hours ago. dr john sentamu called on the synod to support the motion. he said, let's just do this. he said there might be theological issues to debate, this isa theological issues to debate, this is a call on the house of bishops to consider a new service. he said they can sort out the theological issues, let's go ahead and do this. that opinion won in the end. three people have been killed and five injured in a collision in cornwall. a woman and a child from one car sustained fatal injuries, as well as a

when i go into a church, i feel welcome as a fellow anglican, but there's always that paranoia.ea me? if you vote for this, it would be a way of saying that the church of england officially accept people like me. and, thinks that our identity is valid and won't try to invalidate us. please do it. it shows that the church likes transgender people and is inclusive, and it stops transgender people from shying away from faith out of fear that they will not be accepted for who they really are. andy, has there been a reaction from the transgender community? not yet, this happened only a few hours ago. one of the interesting interventions in the debate was from the archbishop of york, he called for the senate to support the motion. he said there may be theological issues to debate, they can consider a new service, and it's one opinion, in the end. and in california, a record breaking heat wave has left fires raging across the us state. thousands of firefighters are attempting to contain more than 20 fires. rainfall during the winter and spring spurred the growth of dense vegetation, bu

they were rebels against the established churches and that was social hierarchy in virginia and new england. they would badly criticize the anglican establishment in virginia and the establishment in boston and one went so far as to say, think it was john leyland, a baptist that there should be no clerical establishment at all but only the relationship between the individual and god. this was a complete disruption but on the other hand sort of a solution to the problem of people leaving their families, going away into the woods starting a fresh and not having those hierarchies depend on anymore. so, they eventually establish their own churches, baptist and presbyterian but for a time it was a really wild moment. then in the cities and the last thing i will say about this is that in new england anyway they were real reformers. the evangelicals began programs for care for the indigent, for immigrants. they started the public school system in this country and indeed they were the first mass base for abolition and people always said that william lloyd garrison was responsible for this. he was really too radical for these religious peo

when i go into a church, i feel welcome as a fellow anglican, but there is always that paranoia. ote for this, it would be a way of saying that the church of england officially accepts people like me. thanks that our identity is valid and will not try to invalidate us. please do it. it shows that the church likes transgender people and is inclusive, and it stops transgender people from shying away from faith out of fear they will not be accepted for who they really are. a moving statement. it is that one of the problems? some in the church feel that emotion is getting in the way of what they would say is a kind of liturgical basis for any decision the church makes? there was certainly an amendment tabled that it should be considered, the theological arguments, etc. some it should be considered, the theologicalarguments, etc. some say it would be kicking it into the long grass. there was a short contribution from the archbishop of york, doctorjohn sentamu. he said, let's just do this. he said the house of bishops can go away and think about the complicated theological questions, bu

to preached the sermon to his wife and she does in fact, to the episcopal church and was educated in the homes of several anglican ministers. you don't have to believe anything. but you should have a rational understanding that they're the most prestigious -- prestigious professor and the professor of law is a quiet rationalist the person that he admired so jefferson is reading his he has that as commonplace. and then to buy books pretty regularly and those who bought the book so with every book that jefferson buys to read that citation you can begin to see how his mind can create because he cannot accept the treaty that does not make sense. so as a college student moving into a rationalist. so does the do is begin to revolve so with that british minister and is quite taken by his views. and with those miracles and then everything that overly complicated religion suggest to read that simple unadulterated is the greatest thing he ever written. you don't have to believe the increase but just what he wrote. it what they stuck and. as they translated. and then to figure out so he begins to think hard and he buys two