as angus king reminds me, structure is policy. i would like to talk a bit about our recommendations related to structure. first, we believe that we must create a house permanent select committee on cybersecurity in order to streamline congressional oversight and authority. second we believe we must establish a senate confirmed national cyberdirector that chairman johnson talked about, to lead national level coordination for cyberstrategy. a public voice for cybersecurity and technology issues. we need to strengthen it to ensure infrastructure conduct risk management and cybercampaign planning and lead public and private collaboration allowing it to compete with talent not only with n.s.a. but with google and other companies. and we need to recruit, develop and retain a stronger federal cyberworkforce and there by close our workforce gap and finally we believe we need to strengthen our cybersupply chain. the commission has taken an approach that the power is in free competition. our strategy amounts to little more than occasionally

joining us now independent senator from maine, our friend angus king.would you like to hear from dr. bright as well? >> absolutely, nicolle, he has an important story to tell. there's larger picture here, where this president, anybody that crosses him, i think the motto should be in this administration, don't cross the boss. whether you're in the intelligence community, in the medical community, working on coronavirus, if you disagree and try to do your job, which you swore to uphold you can get in trouble and in fact get fired. >> you know, i wrote down some of what he said as he was talking and as you're suggesting it had haunting echoes of the 17 witnesses who testified in the impeachment hearing against donald trump. there were some echoes to secretary mattis' resignation letter after decisions on syria and troops in syria, it's a repeat story. dr. bright saying that he stood by science, quote, instead of funding projects promoted by trump. we're still pushing out the best and the brightest, people like dr. bright in favor of cronies. >> the real tr

joining us now is senator angus king, an independent from maine who serves on the intelligence committeetor king, great to have you with us this morning. we'll go to china in a minute, but i'd like to start with the fact that you're there. you're in washington. the senate is in session and not everyone's particularly happy about that. dick durbin, the number two in the senate said, quote, i don't think we should have come back. coming back for mitch mcconnell's former intern to get promoted to the second highest court in the land doesn't count as an emergency. he's talking about getting judge walker to the court of appeals hot how do you feel about this? >> i don't find coming back, i'm glad to be here. but when people in maine were talking to me they said when you go back let's work on unemployment and aid to the farmers and work on the ppe for help for the lobstermen. nobody said angus, we want you go down there and confirm than you qualified judge for a lifetime appointment. it's ridiculous. now, the other thing we are doing, john, that is meaningful is hearings on various nominees. i

senator angus king, the independent who caucuses from the democrats from maine, thank you. over to you. >>> and coming up, could military recruits with a history of coronavirus be banned from serving? we have the latest guidance from the pentagon. you're watching msnbc. u're watc. no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card. we're returning $2 billion dollars to our auto policyholders through may 31st. because now, more than ever, being a good neighbor means everything. like a good neighbor, state farm is there. arbery. arbery >>> military recruits with a covid-19 diagnosis in their medical histories might be permanently barred from service. but a defense official says a pentagon memo saying the diagnosis is a permanent disqualifier is interim guidance and affected recruits may still be able to get a waiver. joining me now is our pentagon and national security correspondent. courtney, i have to say this one was a head scratcher to me. that this would become a permanent ban. if the estimates are right, 77% of the population then ma

our first witnesses senator angus king. senator king is a cochair of the cyberspace solarium commission. since 2013 he served as the first independent senator from the state of maine. prior to joining the senate was the governor of maine for two terms. he's a a graduate of dartmouth college and university of virginia law school. senator king. >> and ranking member pierre, south dakota, patient the opportunity to testify before you. what i'd like to do is give you a little background on the commission, what our fundamental findings were and then talk about our strategy of labor, of layered cyber deterrence. first, the commission. it was set up by the 2019 national defense act, and the mission of the commission was to establish an overall strategic direction for american policy in cyberspace. that's number one. and number two, to make recommendations for implementing that strategy. activation of 14 members, format from the congress, four from the executive, and six from the private sector. it was entirely nonpartisan. there we

senator angus king and congressman mike gallagher. if i lived further north congressman al gore would be my member of congress. we are pleased to welcome suzanne

i mean i just had a steak named angus king.ys should receive the same testing regimen the white house get. how are we going to administer 330 million tests per day? who is going to handle that part? and by the way, you know, the president does get things like secret service. does have things like bullet proof ground transportation. there are things that our leaders get because of the importance of their job that maybe not every single american gets. but the gotcha game really comes down to this, steve. that when we talk about per capita testing. you are talking about, again, 330 million people to scale that, we will take some time. it's not south korea where it's 1/7th the population. the gotcha game also comes when we talk about death tolls you almost never hear the media talk about what we are doing in terms of our mortality rate per cap attachment let me tell what you john hopkins says for instance. they say of the 10 countries that are affected most by coronavirus. the united states is the second lowest. only to germany, wh

senator king isn't the only one who is following this issue very closely. sorry, angus. let me also, , because you mentioned the importance of the employees at the shipyard, and clearly they are -- their effectiveness is the reason that shipyard is considered the most productive in the country. i had an opportunity to talk to several of the workers there about their concerns with the covid-19ce pandemic. as you're probably aware our number of people there who have tested positive. we lost a shipyard worker, and they are very concerned about havingng the right personal protective equipment, the masks that they really did when they're working in close quarters in the yard. and if that can't be provided, that has to pay be considered for those people who are working in those dangerous circumstances. can you commit to me that you look into this and see if we can ensure that the people who are working on our subs have the protective equipment that they need to do their jobs? >> senator, absolutely. i can tell you one of the most impressive things i've learned in the last few

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