>> is there any indication that the relief pilot is used on this flight or at any point in the flight and if i could, the photograph shows that the evacuation. a malfunction? the evacuation was used? >> do your first question. i'll come back to you for the second. um, the first question has to do with the he leaf pilot and how they were usedded. there were 4 pilot -- used. there were 4 pilots on the aircraft. there were 2 separate crews or pairs in the cockpit. there are 2 pilots that fly. left feet, right feet, traditionally captain and first officer and generally you would see on this long transpacific flight the reason why they have 2 crews is because they want to make sure they can get rest. there are flight and duty time limitations and then there's also considering what state for pilots in a situation. they do have rest quarters up near the front of the plane so the 2 that are flying, the other 2 can get rest. the question was were the relief pilots usedded? we don't have any reason to believe they were not use. that is the expectation why you have crews why they will switch out

clerk, any other items? >> the clerk: the committees the items. >> thank you, we are adjourned. >>> >>> >>> he is >> can we all rise please for the pledge of allegiance. of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all mr. president, i'd like to call roll (calling names) mr. president, you have a quoru

he did not site any law or any statue or any justification, i will go back to mr. hur's argument i will now send all of my idr and my information requests and anything that i have directly to the department head and specifically with the department head because that is the person who receivesannual sunshine training and annual sunshine declaration and has the responsibility as the department head to insure everyone in the department follows the law. if someone does not follow the law, it is his or her responsibility. i was in the navy, in the submarine service, for 12 years and one lesson that we learned is that delegation is not advicati. on. >> if you named the director or the head of the department they are the ones who are responsible either directly or in directly for sending the person to deal with this issue or to answer for this issue. >> responsible for sending miss patterson and unfortunately that is an out for them because what they do often is some people who have absolutely no idea, no idea what is going on in this situation and show up and get asked q

i don't see any other comments or questions new. seeing none, do we have a motion on this item >> we have a motion and a second. could we take roll call on this item please. (calling names) >> that's 5 i's and it's approved. please call item number 10 >> this is the the disadvantaged level of 14.8 percent and fiscal years 2014 through 16. and the last report on this item >> it was presented to you. we have put the proposed item out for a public comment on the round table and we have not received any comments about your proposed goal. director reiskin in response to our question we did look at the small enterprise school and have increased that. we had an appointment with the board and the small business participation. we have said they'll continue to work with our project and he wants a proposal to present to their imply commerce secretary on how to improve the system >> are there any comments or questions. seeing none. can we take - do we have a motion on this item >> second. >> we have a motion and a second can we take roll call.

is there any staff? okay. i would like to first apologize to the public because we are ending early. and usually we don't like to end early. we like to utilize this time, but today we're on time, everyone. i would like to thank the public for coming out to our meeting today and if you were gone early, we just ended a little bit earlier. next time we'll be here until 4:00 p.m. apologize. seeing that there's no more public comment, if there's nothing else from the staff, you guys you we will not be here in august, we'll be back in september. you guys have a nice rest of the summer and thank you for coming to the mayor's office on disabilities today. thank you. council, sorry.

be a nonprofit organization, any cdos, or any other local government, the city as the primary grantee would have the responsibility of monitoring those other entities to make sure they are in compliance with the federal requirements. the finding related to a [speaker not understood] member, the data universal numbering system which is a number that is applied to an organization and it's used by the federal agencies to help track where the funding is going. so, there is a requirement to obtain the required number from the [speaker not understood] prior to awarding any subcontracts. so, as a result of our audit for these two federal programs, we found that the dph did not obtain such numbers from the recipients for 2012. would you like the department to speak on this item? >> thank you. >> [speaker not understood] from department of public health. we have notified all our contractors that they're required to submit the [speaker not understood] number that will be part of their requirement along with the turning in their audited financial statements. and, so, we are -- we do have that co

thank you. >> any questions. okay. can we go to the report and on page 12 our recommended rescues are together with the un - they total 55978 in n fourteen >> colleagues any questions for mr. rose? and a okay. thank you mr. rose. colleagues any other questions for the department >> i'm sure they'll all go like this. colleagues can i have a motion >> so moved. >> okay. so moved. we have our planning department welcome back >> good morning john ram with the planning department. we are in agreement that there would be i think the number $360,000 in cuts. i also just wanted to mention the policy issue that was placed the budget analyst report. we're taking the steps to have you approve the numbers of positions that are not funded to allow the flexibility in the coming budget noois the money does come in. it would allow us to hire people more quickly coming presumably if the funds don't come in. that is the intent of doing that it's our experience that the hiring can take 6 months that gets us favor behind >> any questions.

i am happy to answer any questions. >> colleagues any questions? we don't have a budget analyst report so we will open it up for public comment? seeing none public comment is closed. colleagues can we move this forward without opposition? so moved. mr. clerk can you call item eight please. >> item eight resolution approving the contract for united airlines for plots 16 and 16b. >> okay. thanks. we have kathy here from the airport to speak on this item. >> good morning chair farrell, members of the committee. i am with the airport. the airport is requesting your approval to amend the existing ground lease for approximately 130 acres at the maintenance center with united airlines. the proposed amendment would extend the lease and increase the base rent. the subject lease between united and the airport was for originally for 20 years and had two 10 years options to extend and the recent one expired in 2013. in addition to extending the lease at the operations center the airport would like to reclaim approximately 5 acres of leased land for operational

would like to make any comments on any future meetings concerning this commission? seeing none, public comment is closed. next item, please. >> item 11, new business. >> does anybody have any new business? seeing none, next item, please. >> item 12 is adjournment, is there a motion to adjourn? >> i move. >> i second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> meeting adjourned. >> commissioners, the final is 3:24 p.m. >> thank you commissioners. >> good morning. thank you. the meeting will come to order. welcome to the regular meeting other government oversight and audit committee. i am malia cohen. to my left is supervisor katy tang to my left is david campos. i would like to thank the people of sfgtv, i don't have the names in front of me. thank you for broadcasting this meeting. and clark are there any announcements? >> clerk calonsag: yes. please be sure all devices are turned off. and documents are turned into. >> i found the names, jennifer low and jesse larson. item number one. >> clerk calonsag: (reading agenda) >> are you from the department of human resources? >> i am. >

and the next item. >> item number eight, future agenda items. >> any ideas or issues to raise for any future work at lasco. >> this is something to keep in mind, it is as we are moving forward, and in this city, it is you know, doing its reenvisioning of the housing authority and lasco has stepped in a number of areas in the past where we have funded the studies or additional analysis or reports and i think that to the extent that there may be a need to do something like that on the housing authority, i think that is something that we should be mindful of because one of the aspects of lasco is to help improve the effectiveness, efficiency and the operations of agencies. so, lafco and its budget to provide the tools to perhaps play a role in that. >> great, thank you, commissioner campos. >> i will be interested in exploring that as a possible areas of work. and this item, we can open it up for public comment. and seeing no member of the public come forward we can close public comment. and it is an information item. and we have taken no action and so we can go on to the next item. >> i

>> do we have any members of the public who would like to make comment on any item that is not on today's agenda? >> seeing none, public comment is closed, next item. >> the general public comment, sir? >> okay. >> general public comment will be limited to three minutes. >> if you can please state your name clearly. >> sure. >> good afternoon, my name is (inaudible), and i'm the resident of (inaudible) association. and i was hoping that when i come back to your meeting, that it would be for the purpose of (inaudible) lombard street, (inaudible) and i have to speak on behalf of (inaudible) about the confusion, the confusion of the published agenda item number two and three. it is totally confusing whether the commission is discussing whether or not to continue item number three, or whether we take action today? >> sir? >> i have to interrupt you. that is item number three and this is on public comment on any items that are not on today's agenda. >> so it will have to wait until three is called. >> okay. >> thank you. >> any other members of the public that would like to make comment on any

thank you. >> any members of the public. >> public comment is closed. i want to thank everyone for coming out today and the diversity on our workforce i appreciate. i just want to reiterate that i think i can speak on behalf of the board we just want to thank the staff for their credible ly hard work and we asked a lot of questions the last couple months and a lot of hard questions but none of that should take away from the fact that we have a tremendous amount of respect for the dill gence of the staff and we acknowledge that this project is on time because of the commitment and dedication of the staff so i just wanted to state that of course a lot of questions and concerns came up through the budget process but we really look forward to working with staff on it i just want to acknowledge the hard work that went into it. are there any other. >> i would like to propose an amendment to the approval. within 4 months staff present to the board with 2 valued engineers to the alternatives to the risk value assessment that's been made i have a feeling we're g

is there any reporting requirement? >> if the contribution is a result of purging, then that supervisor or elected official, the state law requires a filing of what we called a (inaudible) form and any time that a private entity makes a contributions that was generated in some form by the influence of an elected official they have to file that. >> it has to be initiated by the public official as opposed to somebody who is doing his homework and saying, what is a charitable organizations that supervisor x, is closely involved with. and i am going to... i am going to make the contributions to it. >> there is not any requirement >> no. it is if you are... and i believe that the state is kind of looking at this, where and i don't know how far along it is, where anyone doing business with the city and makes a contribution in excess of $5,000 will have to report them as a matter of course. >> regardless of whether anyone urged them to do it. >> right. >> otherwise, at this time, it is the elected official who has to made the

any questions about the budget overall? >> supervisor farrell: any questions at this time? did you ever report separately on item number one? > yes we did pages 38, 39, bottom line is that based on the analysis that we recommended you approve the ordinance. regarding the recommendations on page 39 of the report, our total recommendations in 13-14 will result in 435,073 city city general fund and for 14-15 recognitions total 131,000 even. >> okay, colleagues any questions for mr. rose? >> i want to thank budget analyst's office for working with our office diligently. >> supervisor farrell: colleagues, can i have a motion to accept the budget recommendation on the sheriff's budget. (gavel) we do need to take public comment on this item. if there is someone on the public that would like to comment step forward. public comment is closed. can have a motion? can we do so without opposition (gavel) so moved. up next, the treasurer tax collector. mr. cisneros. >> good morning supervisors, jose cisneros, seven cisco treasurer tax collector. >> supervisor farrell: any questions for t

clerk, any other items? >> the clerk: the committees the items. >> thank you, we are adjourned. >>> >>> >>> >> 2013 meeting, the time is now 5:40 p.m., and the meeting is being called to order. first item is roll call. >> before we call order, would i like ask members of the public to turn off all cell phones and pagers. and please sign in at the front table if you would like to be added to the mailing list. public comment will be taken on each item and speaker cards are available at the front table. if you fill out a card and you can leave it at the front and i will retrieve them. we would like to thank sfgov tv and city hall media services for the constant support of our meetings. >> adams? >> here. >> dooley? >> here. >> commissioner dwight? >> here. >> commissioner o'brien. >> here. >> commissioner ortiz-cartagena. >> here. >> commissioner cartagena? >> here. >> commissioner riley? >> here. >> commissioners that brings you to item number two, public comment? >> do we have any members of the public who wo

. >> i was wondering are there any men on this committee. >> pardon. >> are there any me up. >> no. >> i was attacked one day by someone who said there are no men that's because we've begged men to come we meet in the morning and men don't want to want to be on this committee the men in the morning want to play golf. they've all said no, we don't want to and someone else said well, you have no color. i have idea when this committee almost exploded in 20034 when everybody on the committee quit and i was ready to quit and john said i expect you to quit and i said i've put in seven years already then our ballot handbook will look like the states which is biased in any aspects and i went to every single group and begged them to come up with people to serve on this committee. they all know we want people of color and men but this is a very concentrated go up. on the committee of women we're work hours if you need something done give it to a woman and that's because i asked for it. look there's jim lazarus >> i thought occupier coming up to volunteer for this. any other questions >> now goo

make any comment on item 6? seeing none, public comment is closed. so i thank our city attorney for coming this evening >> i'd like to ask a quick question. >> commissioner and . >> and so if there's a strong emgs of people who come before the commission and are quite vocal and implore us to take a position assume that we are afraid to determine whether we agree with the merits of what it is we're being asked to take a position on and for the commission as a whole didn't agree with it they wouldn't meanwhile have to go along with what's been proposed by a majority of people who may or may not be a majority of people but i want to know is there any retranquilities on the commission taking a position on the odds of the opinion prevailing out there? >> okay just a second here. >> yeah. if there's two mike's i have the wrong one. >> just to clarify sometimes, we get catch up in a view of an ideological or a view of a situation and it may seem and maybe it is contrary to the interests of small business owners or it c

any questions? >> thank you jill any questions? we look forward to it and i know we'll see many of you. we're going to give ail m r e's instead of hotdogs. if there's no questions we'll move on 80 and go to our administrator. thank you >> good afternoon, everyone the lifeline council is made up of any of our department heads that are critical to restoring san francisco after an emergency and also allow our utility agrees to get our telecommunications back up and running our water and sewer. our objectives are to improve the planning and restoration and he establish collaborations and recovery following a major disaster. we've got a huge independent study and we talked about our tangible story where we collectively worked with pg&e additional solving one our of of their issues and supporting one of their transmission project to help improve liability and particularly in the downtown area. most recently, the lifetime policy we're asking what topic would be most urls to observe agencies and we've prioritized those routes and how well,

answer any questions. they were the peer reviewer of the study for the success or agency and they are also present to answer any questions. if you have any specific questions about the projector our analysis, our machine of staff are also present to address those questions as well. >> supervisor kim? >> thank you, this question might be for mr. prior to. this is my first time on the board hearing an appeal of a meteorology -- major appeal to alter this building. >> deputy city attorney, marlena, the standards setforth in article 11 for determining whether to an pprove a major permit to alter, essentially the hcp and this body as an appellate body needs to look at whether or not the proposed new construction and the changes that are being made to the building are compatible with the design and characteristics of both the erinson building and because this building is in the boundaries part of this building is in the boundaries within the conservation district and compatible with the major features and charac

any questions? [inaudible] we do have legal expertise and individuals with our mayor's office of disability. if you do have any questions at all about things that you might have heard about or issues you are facing, it might be the opportunity to ask questions. any questions? >> thanks, supervisor. sorry for being late. i heard the gentleman say that the help for small business maximum is $100,000. someone else mentioned a repayment plan. a sort of interest rate and so on and so on. business people show up here. a lot of restaurants and small businesses, and i am certain those members are very interested in this program. i myself have been faithful so long. that is why i am interested. hopefully i will be able to learn something and pass on to the people who need my assistance. if there's any way the supervisor would be able to generate a little more activity, maybe the location might not be perfect for the small orders to attend, and hopefully, we have another similar occasion to notify all those p

i knew nothing about any letter from any artist and i have asked has there been any response. i would have known about it. there was a similar case that was filed against me curiously enough on march 14. i did a public record search. that's how i knew about it. he regurgitated a lot of the same information. even though i wasn't served, i did know. i noticed it online and i was tracking it. i went to 400 mccallsers street. what i showed was a video not a photograph. so you can see exactly what happened. and this was a chance meeting. i was righting my bike and i was in pete's coffee in the ferry building. he approached me. and the case was dismissed. i looked at this case three times in these past three days. there was no reference to anything he said, he used my own video against me and my own police report against me and he didn't appear. >> can i stop you for a minute. stop the time. >> it's a lot to take in. >> no. you have less than three minutes now, we would like to hear your response on the charges. >> my response on the charges in all honesty i didn't do any of this. i

>> any further public comment on this version of the motion? >> hello, i'm glen rogers and i wanted to mention that it is going to be contact pastor gavin if she is homeless by mail. i just wanted to offer that as a problem that you are going to have. as far as we know she does have a post office box that she does use and our understanding is that she does collect her mail and so we are going on that assumption. >> who would like to read back the motion to us? >> commissioner the matter will be moved to september and the ethics commission will go forward and no continuances will be granted for either side unless they are showing for good cause for the continuance. >> seconded by commissioner hur. >> call the question. all in favor? >> aye. >> the motion passes. >> the next item. >> okay. again you have the informational memo in front of you. and i would just point out that early they are year in february, the commissioner voted unanimously that this particular type of practice of a pending written statements to the end of the minutes is accepta

any changes? >> no. >> i will move to adopt the minutes. >> is there any public comment on the minutes? >> seeing none, would you please call the roll? >> on that motion from the president, to adopt the june 19th, 2013 minutes, commissioner fung? >> aye. >> commissioner hurtado? >> aye. >> vice president lazarus? >> aye. >> commissioner honda? >> aye. >> the vote is 5-0, those minutes are adopted. >> thank you. with the president's consent we are going to call item number 6 out of order because we understand that they have reached a settlement this is 13.059. this project is at 2366, 33rd avenue, protesting the issuance on may 6, 2013 to peter sun of a permit to alter a building, two new wagt rooms and one bedroom and storage room and tool room and laundry area to be constructed at ground floor per plan, enclose new bedroom, below sun room and ground floor remodel kitchen and 2 bathrooms and if the parties would like to come forward jointly, you can present the settlement that you reached. >> good

colleagues any questions? okay. we don't have a budget analyst report for number six so we will open it up for public comment. anyone wish to comment on item six? if not public comment is closed. >> i will move recommendation. >> okay we have a motion and second to move this item to the full board. we can do so without opposition and we will go back to item five and the sheriff's department is here to speak on this item. >> supervisors, chair farrell i am brie mortar, from the sheriff's department. i am here to provide you with the contract for ara mark to provide food for inmates and staff in the jails. the contract is with the current vendor ara mark and represents $30,000 savings over the prior contract. in addition to the savings we have also negotiated an expansion of the culinary vocational program. under that expansion ara mark is providing a formal certificate that is recognized by food providers around the country so inmates that work in the kitchen and participate in this process will be able to work in pr

any public wish to address any item related to the puc? please come forward. let me call the name. francisco decosta. >> again in this process, i attended a lafco meeting and was shocked to witness and see before my eyes a survey where the most those areas where most people were impacted were not surveyed. we have to look at it this way in san francisco. the south sector is where all the pollution takes place. so when we try to mitigate whatever we have to mitigate, we have to pay attention to the by view hunters point the south sector which some of you just pretend it doesn't exist. if you do a survey in the sunset area far away from the bay view and you say we want whatever power they want, that's fine with them. but the people that are most adversely impacted should be also attended to which wasn't done in that survey. after that survey, we saw no mitigation, no abatement, we saw no process to approach the community and do meaningful outreach which means go door to door and say these are the types of things we want to do for you. can you participate in this deliberation. it's ve

any public comment on the minutes? seeing none, mr. pacheco please call the roll. >> on that motion from the president to adopt the june 5, 2013 minutes. commissioner fung, honda, the vote is 4-0. the minutes are adopted. >> thank you. we'll callthe item 4 a which is a hearing request. item 4a; rehearing request: subject property at 611 buena vista west avenue. letter from susan brandt-hawley, attorney for matthew & kristine leffers, appellants, requesting rehearing of appeal no. 12-171, decided on may 15, 2013. at that time, the board voted 3-2 to uphold the permit on condition that there be further setbacks at the front and back of the addition; four votes being required to overturn or modify any departmental action under the city charter, the permit was upheld as is with no new conditions. permit holder: martin roscheisen. project: one-story vertical addition to existing two-story residence; roof of 3rd story addition will include green roof; project will have a basement addition; bpa no. 2011/05/04/5332s.request. item 4a; rehearing

i am happy to respond to any questions. >> okay. thank you mr. rose. colleagues any questions? why don't we move to public comment on item three. i do have a few cards and if anyone else wants to speak please come forward. [calling speaker names] and if there is anyone else please line up on the far wall and the first speaker can get going. >> good morning supervisors. thank you for hearing this today. the house has been a labor of love for us and we are heartened to see the assessor's office, the planning department, supervisor wiener's office, supervisor breed's office coming together to protect this treasure for san francisco. we are thrilled to be a part of it and to live there and looking forward to restoring this place. this is my husband porschea peopleels and wanted to acknowledge alex and he's a contractor and doing a lot to help with this project and we are happy to take any questions. >> colleagues, any questions? okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you for being here. okay. anybody else wish to publicly comment on item three? seeing none public comment is closed

but, he just conducted an interview of her, he did not pursue any other violations, or pursue any other questioning or investigations at the time. >> and the police did not question the other party? >> i don't remember those i could not answer that. >> inspector walsh how long have you been doing this? >> i am going on my tenth year. and how would it be determined by you or anyone on your staff, that someone is engaging in non-... i mean, if they, is the act of sex or the fact that there is no clothing on the person sufficient for you, regardless, or are there any circumstances here that would be considered not a violation by your standard or by your measure? >> no. it is improper attire and it is unprofessional conduct in a massage room. >> and need to get back to mr. fung's and he asked the attorney is there any rules about improper attire? >> and yes, the healthcare articles section 1926, it allows the health department to implement rules and regulations and in that in those rules and regulations, there is requirements and now how they are supposed to dress at all times in a facility

agencies are here to answer any questions. >> any comments or questions on this item? we can go on to public comment on this item? any member that would like to comment come forward. seeing none, we'll close public comment. colleagues, can we take this item same house, same call? the item passes. our next item please. >> fourteen, this is an information item. >> any new items introduced? okay. we can go on to public comment on this item. seeing no one come forward, we'll close. our next item. >> item 15, public comment. >> our next item is general public comment. anyone can comment on any related related to the transportation authority. okay, we'll close. and our last item. >> item 16, adjournment. >> colleagues, we are adjourned. >> good morning today is june 28th, and what a fine morning it is, this is the local agency formation, of the city of san francisco, and we would like to thank my colleagues for being here, my name is john avalos i am the chair and to my right is david camp os and london breed and across the aisle is eric marr. madam clerk, could you call the

any customer need and in which all doors will lead to coverage. our goal is to provide first class customer service and this includes coordinating with other social service for which people may be eligible. we are currently engaged in hiring and training a number of new staff in ants pace of enrolling over 30 thousand new clients into health coverage beginning in october. we are transitioning to a service center environment which involves reworking all of our business processes and implementing a whole fleet of technology that is are intended to help our workers do their job more efficiency but to enhance the customer experience. we are conducting outreach to the new medi cal eligibles who are already on the hsa caseload, we know today we have 7 thousand or so county adult assistance program, ga recipients who are eligible for medi cal, 25 thousand additional ones will be likely to be eligible for medi cal, so we will be doing a lot of concerted outreach through channels to those folks and we are doing a lot of coordination with stakeholders both

i'm happy to answer any questions that you might have >> colleagues any questions to the real party of interest? tell you why don't we move to the anybody's of the public that support the parties of interest and line up and we'll hear from the first speaker >> my name is martin i'm a licensed contractor in san francisco. i do most of the maintenance on this building. i'm here to say this 18 inch flood is a total fabrication. what happened in this case, the sewers backed up and they flooded out through the front door inside of the offices you'll see here that, yes 18 inches of sheetrock was removed if you know anything about sheetrock it's important reduce and will suck up water. if you remember the entryway it's susceptible to staining. the total he repairs in the entryway was sealed hidden the inch and a half baseboard so this 18 inch flood was a total fabrication >> hello, i'm linda i'm the owner of the building and i lived in this neighborhood for 18 years so i'm have famous with that. i also, never experienced flooding when i would there and it was a sewer back up that happened tha

if there are any major movements that on the project we would list them here. to be honest i could not say there's a provided right now it's a matter of which ones are closed to completion. the hall is ready and the building just to crossroads this year their locked in berkley and we've trying to set up a meeting to talk about the bends and responsibilities and hopes of their support. it's sort of those behind the scenes projects. but i could not say there's one pressing but if the commission were to direct us to work on one vs. another we'll do that. part of my question is, you know, a good number of those were added in 2011 and here we are two years ago later is that a normal path >> yes there are even to point out a couple of these that were on the landmarks board such as the sunshine school i believe in either 2005 or 2006. so unfortunately, it takes some time to get those before the commission >> thank you. commissioner >> this is one thing we might consider we bring similar properties the first 3 are more than housing and whether they can be grouped toget

>> sure any questions. >> any questions? supervisor breed we're joined by supervisor cowen >> thank you. i justice wanted to - one of the more recent challenges we have in the night life community is over crowding first year i'm also concerned as someone who goes tonight claubz they've over capacity and not enough room to get out if increases a fire. i, you know, the fire department spends a lot of times randomly visit clubs to try and deal with capacity adversaries. i'm wondering a what's our feelings about those things to make sure that club goers will save >> well patron safety a of utmost concern. i've been looking at with an overall goal of night club safety and intooin safety. we've piloted this study with a handful of clubs and we're looking at how to unrole there board interference with night clubs. this is will a process of working with the clubs in the various city officials of what makes a holistic safety capacity for the clubs >> can you tell me what you believe the club owners responsibility is when they reach c

clerk, any other items? >> the clerk: the committees the items. >> thank you, we are adjourned. >>> >>> >>> >> good afternoon. welcome to the san francisco board of

and there by defining it away completely as to any responsibility. it is like saying the knife did it so too bad if there has been a murder but there is really nobody accountable. mr. st. croix goes on and on in the letter about the complainant was peter warfield and then he goes on and defines, and so he talks about on page 2 of the letter, they referred it as a willful violation under section 67 hour miss patterson is not a elected official and will be held under chapter two. if you look at the order of determination and all of the documents, over and over and over again, mr. st. croix has overlooked the fact that it was the library users association against the arts commission which is headed by a department head who out to be responsible if not maybe the city attorney or the mayor. >> thank you you will have additional time to speak on this. >> i would prefer not to have this go forward, thank you. >> any additional public comment at this time we are going to look at violations of the sunshine ordinance, and the first one, mr. st. croix? >> okay.

any questions? >> so, i do want to ask, my concern is about planning department resources, staff time, the time it takes to come to the chambers and on and on. so, i do want to ask if you can give a sense, this is part of a larger negotiation, [speaker not understood], what the type of problem we're seeking to look out for. what kind of projects is there concern about that will go through different modifications that would then, you know, sort of circumvent the system? is it single-family homes? is it parks projects? you know, what kind of projects did community members talk about that they were worried about? >> i think it's challenging because we're coming to you today only with this piece of trailing legislation. this is one piece of the entire universe of what we've come together in terms of what we thought would be a balanced approach in terms of assuring that community has a voice in this process, but that we were also creating real deadlines and ensuring that projects that should go through d

prospective on that >> any questions. >> had your hello there mr. frank. >> hi and this is the first opportunity i have a question. do you regularly attend police commission meeting >> never been. >> so how do you know i want to be on the police commission. >> i look at what the police commission side and i have a lot of experience dealing with disciplinarian issues. >> supervisor breed. >> thank you. i notice that in this application you signed you knew you were coming before the rules committee i realize n this is a sixth appointment by the board of supervisors and it actually, you haven't reached out to any of our offices to talk with us about your qualifications in person and i was wondering is there a reason you didn't do that >> i've not been avoiding it. >> did you have a chance to review what the procedures are? >> not he really i looked at the website and went over the rules and regulations of the commission and department by you certainly experience no hurdles it's been very - ms. wong has been helpful. >> can you talk about your concerns

was there ever any. my understanding based on the facts that i have read is that the friend left quickly. is that... how do you... >> it was a long time friend of hers he came by the establishment and the two of them were going to go to dinner. she ended up in the room. >> where did he go? as he made an appearance to attest to the fact. >> it is a lower hearing and his name is david and she has known him for many many years and he was not contrary to what the walsh, ed walsh or allnexter says that he put his clothes on and rushed out right away. you would think that if they were interested in prostitution or a violation, they would have detained him and questioned him. >> he is not around. i didn't have him present and i can tell you his first and last night and it is confidential. she wanted to keep it confidential and thes david. it is david doe. and as far as the city attorney say, well she had... >> do you have an affidavit or anything stating that that is what he was doing there. >> no. i didn't sub