carolina to new york, addressing concerns over his joining us now to discuss, biden strategist anita dunn. she is here speaking in her personal capacity. >> greetings, anita. let's just -- we talked a lot about what the president said in raleigh on friday after the debate. i want to play that, and then we obviously have some questions for you on the other side. this is the president in raleigh, north carolina, after the debate. >> iol don't debate as well as used to, but i know what i do know. >> that's right. >> i know how to tell the truth! [ applause ] i know, i know, i know right from wrong! and i know how to do this job! i know how to get things done! and i know, like millions of americans know, when you get knocked down, you get back up! [ applause ] >> strong and resolute biden there yesterday. after that event happened, a number of, not just reporters, but strategists said, this is great and good, and this was better for him than the debate night, but more people saw the debate than sawpe this. what to you say to folks who say, hmm, raleigh, what he did in north carolina is good,

anita dunn, biden campaign strategist tried to put it in perspective this morning. >> i thought barack obama put it best. i will remember being on sets like this in 2012 after the first debate that he conducted. he's had bad debates happen and they do happen. good debates happen. as the president said maybe he isn't as great a debater he used to be. i would tend to say it wasn't his greatest debate. it is 90 minutes. in a campaign and in an administration where he has achieved enormous things maybe it wasn't a great debate that he has been a great president. >> fellow democrats voicing their support for the damage -- also deserve scrutiny. >> let's be crystal clear donald trump is a liar and lied over and over in that debate. president biden told the truth, he was honest, he showed the kind of man he is, he took on donald trump on the issues he needed to take him on and i am proud of our president. >> both candidates hit the campaign trail friday delivering these messages to voters. >> we are in a battle for the soul of america. i look around at the pride, hope and light that all of yo

anita dunn will join us at the table to talk about the path forward. >>> donald trump goes on the attack, how he plans to lie his way back to the white house. >>> the supreme court issuing a monumental ruling, overturning decades of precedent. it is almost july, but the are not done yet. >>> welcome to the weekend. we >>> is another busy saturday morning with news from consequential decisions from supreme court to the damage control front and center after the first presidential debate to a major editorial board calling on the president to bow out of the race. on monday, we expect the supreme court to finally rule on donald trump's wide claim of presidential immunity. that is the case with stalling his alleged election interference trial for the attempt to steal the 2020 election. as for the 2024 election, president biden was back on the campaign trail friday. he addressed concerns about his debate night performance the previous evening. >> folks, i give you my words, i would not be running again if i did not believe with my heart and soul i could do this job. >> after what was a fiery sp

>> i think, and i will preface this with anita dunn is joining our show tomorrow on the weekend, whohe is joining in her personal capacity, not as a white house official. so we are going to after these questions and talk to her. but knowing the folks that i know, my former colleagues, and having reached out and heading conversations with folks, to glean what they are thinking. they are unchanged in large part. which ■ça lot of folks have not that that is not a great thing. i will say this. they all knew during that debate last night that he didn't do well. which is why i was confused about why the president went out right after that debate at the watch party, where he had a lot more energy than he did on the debate stage, and even at the waffle house in that off the record stop where he was with the first lady. when he was asked himself about how he thought he did, he said i did great. it is not hard to debate a liar. that does not sound like a focus on the president immediately after the debate were honest with him and told him the truth. it was very clear from what we saw today fro

and the moment any of them, like anita dunn, president obama, come in and say, "joe, you need to stepat is the sort of thing that's going to have an influence, but not the new york times. what do you think comes next? i mean, we're still kind of sorting through the fallout of this debate, the president attending a couple of fundraisers today. what does he need to do to start to move ahead and really prove to his own party that he is the man to take on and to defeat donald trump? look, president biden needs a reset. that is abundantly clear. i cannot tell you the number of millionaires, billionaires — the people who are big—dollar donors to biden�*s campaign — who had a collective freak—out after the debate. and the one thing that president biden had to do is to convince people that his age is not going to be an issue, and he struggled and frankly just failed at that at the debate. and the other point he has to make — and this is one he's doing well, and so i think he should get credit for this — is democracy is on the ballot in this election. his campaign and kind of biden surrogates

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. >> few democrat turned their back but in the white house not doing that, anita dunn had this to say about the path forward. >> the conversation we had is okay, what do we do next? one thing we are about it's okay, barack obama said that debates happen, we had a bad debate, what do we do next? the president of all is focused on what do we do next? what do i need to go do? think we saw in north carolina, he knew exactly what he needs to do yesterday. >> the question everyone wanted to know, is it happening? if so, how could it happen? it's not very simple. >> i think they are right, they have to come up with a new candidate because joe biden can't get through the next four months let alone another four years but elections are not run by the democratic party. they are not run by the federal government. elections are run by state and each state has its own tattoo. you can't just going and replace one and say joe had a bad debate and he's failing so we will put in gretchen or gavin or kamala. that doesn't work that way. many of these deadlines have come and gone. you cannot do this sort

theater at camp david you have got bob bauer who is the president's former attorney who is married to anita dunnplaying donald trump. obviously from doug just told us regarding barack obama. everybody has got eyes. they know that joe biden is different than he was four years ago. in the back of their mind they're thinking can he full off you? are absolutely right. is he going through all the stuff. they are going through the bernie sanders and bernie through thebinders and memorizi. ultimately people are going to make their own decisions. we are all going to tune in to this channel on thursday night and see it. and we will know with our own eyes whether or not he is up to tchingt. >> lawrence: ainsley they talk about it in this n bsz piece. that biden debate prep strategy they are prepared for two different donald trumps. according to the advisers. biden advisers particularly combing through all of trump's recent comments. these people said in an effort to best identify what might get under his skin and what may trigger him the most if he does demonstrate some self-control. we will say this. i k

anita dunn, biden campaign strategist tried to put it in perspective this morning.

anita dunn joined our show this morning. she is a senior advisor and strategist for the president.aid did you all have conversations about joe biden stepping down and not running for reelection? were those conversations on the table? she said the conversations they had were about how they move forward and how they recover. that is what she told us on the record. many of the biden folks also told me privately that was not on the table. >> so let me ask you then, because you are a strategist. you had done this before. what does the road forward look like? i think a lot of people in deep panic are wanting to know what that road forward looks like. and atlantic piece that was published i think less than an hour ago, it was titled calls for biden's withdrawals are the sign of a healthy democratic party. the piece points out the democrats willingness to question biden or consider the possibility is a good sign. it's not saying that biden needs to go. it is saying that these are conversations that should be had. do you agree with that? >> this is the former strategist in me talking. i thi

anita dunn, barack obama. what is being done to revive this guy.hey are complicit in the destruction of our nation. we have a military. we have conflicts. we have a border. we have crime. and we don't have a president. the question i keep getting asked from everybody i know pete, who is the president? who is the president? we don't know who the president is right now. and when you are the world's top republican charged with leading the world. that's really important and jill biden has responsibility. she is completely abdicated. imagine if you just finished that first interview. brian, that was so good. you asked all the questions. you did great. that's what we're up against right now people say isn't that nancy reagan helping ronald reagan she watched his back. she didn't lead. jill biden seems to be leading for this. she is leading him. i wonder is she forcing him. he doesn't seem like he wants to jump up there and grab the microphone. >> pete: he is also stubborn. enabler right next to him who you said loves the spotlight and loves the power. a

david this weekend and perhaps up until the debate, huddling with advisers, familiar names and anita dunn his top advisers, the co-chairman of his last campaign, we expect his going to be involved in full mock debates. where as trump really likes to do this by the seat of his pants. he refers not to do the sort of formal debate prep, but rather to talk about the issues and one thing that i've been told repeatedly is that he very much likes to not preview what he's going to say, even to his own aides, because he wants it to sound natural when it comes out the first time, he wants it to have more punch and be more convincing from him. doesn't want to feel like he's saying something he said before. we'll see how these two styles go. remember the first debate last time, trump was sort of all over the place, interrupting biden, it was very bad for him. by the second debate he had gotten more control of himself and folks thought that was a little more even of a debate. >> jonathan allen and erin haines, thank you so much. appreciate it. >>> up next, moving wildfires, havoc in new mexico, we'll

campaign officials to travel with him, including long time advisers, former chief of staff ron klain, anita dunno be there helping him out along the way. >> gary, historically, the first didn't for an incumbent can be dicey. the biden team thinks they can avoid that fate? >> reporter: they do. it becomes dicey because you're used to a, hello, mr. president, and sir, but when you get on a debate stage, it's donald trump versus joe biden, and it is going to get a little bit personal and that's where president biden hopes to push back a little bit and attack a little bit towards former president trump as well. because we do know former president trump does have the ability to get under people's skins, but the biden administration hopes that president biden will be able to push back on that. >> gary grumbach, thank you so much. of course these two men debated each other four years ago now. how do you prepare for a debate against trump, somebody who disregards basic facts? >> exactly. and i think that biden knows that, so that's rule number one, know your opponent, right, and one thing about donald t

i saw in that report there was anita dunn citing a meeting with michelle obama's chief strategist. have a feeling that the time is coming where, you know, you will see news flashes on, you know, when she is going to be speaking at the convention or how many days she will be campaigning, probably as a result now because of this article, but she spoke for us last time. she didn't campaign for us. but i think she is one of the biggest stars in the democratic party, so hopefully she does. >> jesse: all right. mike, thank you so much. i would like to say good luck but. >> thanks for having me. >> jesse: i don't really mean it but good luck. >> thanks, jesse. good luck. >> jesse: all right. the trump family is here. and johnny,. >> pretend you're joe biden. you get on that debate stage. the first thing you're telling trump. >> skippedy bob, scooby-doo. into the things that keep our food fresher, our families safer, and our planet cleaner. to help us get there, america's plastic makers are investing billions of dollars to create innovative products and new recycling technologies for susta

there is a number of senior white house advisers that will be there, long time friends including anita dunnople not name brands nationally, but folks that joe biden has known for many, many years. so we have one week to go until the debate. jose? >> yeah, and, vaughn, we learned that trump is not attending a hearing tomorrow in his mar-a-lago documents case so he can focus on his campaign. what do we know about his prep? >> it is different than what gary just outlined for the current president. at least according to what advisers are telling us at nbc news. there is, unlike for president biden, no clear mock rehearsals that are taking place. donald trump did do that exact thing four years ago at his first debate with joe biden in 2020, but he had chris christie at the time, who was an ally still of his, who played joe biden for that rehearsal. this go around, though, the campaign is contending that him just being on the campaign trail, tonight going to a fund-raiser with jd vance in cleveland, and then talking to the american public, that's his form of debate prep. brian hughes, senior advi

susan rice, anita dunn. all the people who work at the white house also know.they balked at that "wall street journal" story that said he was showing signs of slipping. they pushed back all over that. but that story now appears to be quite accurate based on what we saw last night. there is going to be -- i think what we're seeing from josh shapiro, a battle royale over two camps. one camp will say we'll keep him in there. they have did the basement campaign in 2020 in front of a teleprompter and made sure he got across the finish line. if they get him across the finish line again and decides that he wants to bow out after six or eight months as president they'll move kamala into the spot. not planned she would speak last night but she was on the cable networks. the entire "new york times" and other people it is time to go. so there will be a huge tussle going on there. >> bret: stand by if you would. i think we have another ruling out of the supreme court. shannon bream is standing by outside. >> this is the one we have been talking about under the radar on fed

anita dunn is sort of a messaging guru at the white house. so she's going to be heavily involved as well. what are you hearing laura real quickly. i mean, pretty much the same ron klain is leaving the debate preparation and that ultimately, yes. president biden is taking this very seriously and it is a big in contrast compared to trump because we know about president biden, he likes to fine tune things even to the last minute as well. and so he's gonna be sharpening those attack leinz, i mean, i think you're going to see him try to hammer trump really hard on abortion, also on immigration something that he president biden himself has been trying to balance heading into november, we'll see the voids, the curse of the incumbent president who tends to struggle in the first debate we will check more, talk more about that later. first, be more disciplined, prepare for multiple scenarios coming up more and how the candidates are making their final preps before the big debate. >> the most anticipated moment of this election, and the stakes couldn't

you also see some of his messaging gurus and anita dunn mcdonald now and also as current chief of staffjeff sites and bruce reed, who is his policy chief and helped sort of put these binders together. i do think it's interesting. ron klain back in 2012 worth this list of debate rules as he was preparing. so it does give you an idea of what they're doing. one of them is developing a list of three items. you must say in the debate study or what your opponent has been saying especially in the days just before the luckily trump has given them ample tape to review no practice is more effective than mocked debating. so certainly there are going to be doing that in the days leading up to thirst day. make sure you get feedback from a prep team that is compact and candid. well, he's got there that up there at camp david, it's a pretty small group. it's people who feel like they know joe biden pretty well. >> and one of them is if in doubt, don't essentially don't go rogue. >> and the debate stage, that's not the place where it know what you're gonna do, know what you're gonna say. >> that's prob

people like mike donaldson anita dunn the messaging gurus at the white house and campaign, he has policy advisors like bruce reed and jake sullivan and the national security adviser and then senior members from his campaign, jen o'malley, dillon, julie chavez rodriguez, cedric richmond, people who have been with the president for awhile, but also some new faces like quentin fulks, michael tyler, rob flaherty, trying to bring as much perspective to this debate preparation as they can now ordinarily presidents when they're at camp, david like to get outside a little bit. the weather this weekend, there is very high high of 98 degrees on saturday. so i think those preparations will likely be transpiring indoors, but certainly very intensive for the next several days kevin live tax cnn, washington and tune in to the cnn presidential debates, right here, thursday at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. and it will replay the chemnitz face off in its entirety. a couple of different times you can watch it on friday, june 28, at 7:00 a.m. london time. that's two in the afternoon at hong kong are 12 hours lat

anita dunn addressed the matter on saturday. >> you all did not have any kind of conversations about should joe biden drop out of this race? >> the conversation we had is what do we do next. that is -- if there's one thing we're about it's okay, barack obama said bad debates happen, we had a bad debate. what do we do next? the if the is focused on what do we do next? >> president biden, who agreed to the earlierest general election debate in modern history had one goal, to persuade voters who are skeptical about his age and fitness for office that he is up to serve another four years. mr. biden has consistently told voters watch me. >> if i were to run i think you would judge me on my vitality, can i run up the steps of air force 2, am i in good shape, do i have all my faculties, am i energetic. it's totally legitimate for people to ask those questions. this is for the voters to decide. take a look. see if i have the energy, know what i'm talking about and make their judgment. i think it's a legitimate thing to be concerned about anyone's age, including mine. i think that's totally l

members of his team who have been with him for a long time, people like mike donaldson anita dunn, the messaging gurus at the white house and campaign. he has policy advisors like bruce read and jake sullivan, the national security advisor, and then senior members from his campaign. jen o'malley, dillon, julie chavez rodriguez three goes cedric richmond. people who have been with the president for awhile, but also some new faces like quentin fulks, michael tyler, rob flaherty trying to bring as much perspective to this debate preparation as they can. now ordinarily presidents when they're at camp, david like to get outside a little bit the weather this weekend, there is very high high of 98 degrees on saturday. so i think those preparations will likely be transpiring indoors, but certainly very intensive for the next several days kevin live tax, cnn, washington. >> now, during the 90 minute debate, microphones will be muted except for the candidate whose turn it is to speak while no pre-written notes will be allowed, trump and biden will be given a pen and paper and a bottle of water e

i'm talking about anita dunn. i'm talking about ron klain. they all need to be held accountable or to account. but the fact is he's our horse and what do you want from democracy that is the, that is the question that has to be asked. >> i think you're practically right. you are right that it would be precedented, incredibly challenging, incredibly risky to make a change. but what false so flat for me as you and i agree that donald trump is a threat to democracy, he's a threat to our justice system, to the american way of life and i strongly believe in a few weeks we're going to see him in double digits ahead and battlegrounds, there is not a way to turn around with 50 million billion people saw last night. and i heard from people all over the world who stayed up until the wee hours of the morning in the hague munich, london texting me because they were scared because of the impacts on the war in ukraine. the stakes are too high to do the party politics and the geniality isn't, this isn't party politics, and i apologize for interrupting you, b

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