anita hill, it's ginni thomas.d some full explanation of why you did what you did with my husband. >> narrator: it had been nearly two decades since the confirmation hearings. >> so, give it some thought. i certainly pray about this and hope that one day you'll help us understand why you did what you did. okay! have a good day. (call ends) >> narrator: ginni thomas had been rising inside the republican party. >> republican politics keep moving toward her. and it keeps moving right. and there she is, right where it's, where it's moving, each step along the way. >> the republican revolution of election '94 moved the whole political landscape sharply to the right. >> narrator: when hard-rit republicans seized control of the house, ginni became an aide to one of the leaders, dick armey. >> she shared my values, my beliefs, and my understanding of the world. >> narrator: they called him "dr. no." >> i enjoy calling the left down. they're a bunch of damn clowns. i think they should be mocked and ridiculed. and i, and i t

, against the anita hill allegations, sexual harassment at work. he has been, he's kept a list and he's been some say engaged in revenge in all of his jurisprudence. others say he's just he's going his own route and he doesn't care that he's, like people are liberals may think because he'sc a black man, he should go certain way or have a default position that is a certain default position as somebody was raised away clarence was raised. he's determined to go another way and not let the fact that he's black characterize where he stands on a number of issues that people might voting rights and other things that people might easily characterized him and drop it into a slot. that's not what clarence thomas is like. >> host: in the moment we will shows a portion of the partnership, , how the partnersp was forged between clarence thomas and hisar wife jenny. barbara is in texas on the democrat's line. you are on. >> caller: good morning. i have yet seen the document but i'm looking forward to doing so. i understand that harlan crow wasn't an old friend f

and to be really clear, anita hill has done nothing in those intervening years. but think about systems and processes and how to fix them. she wrote, i think a singularly important new york times piece before dr. ford was called on to testify, in which she said do to her what was done to me. and as you may recall, exactly the same thing was done to dr. ford, except that they put the sex crimes prosecutor who was supposed to cross-examine her because it was all white men on the republican side of the senate. they put her in like the naughty girl chair at the front of the room, and she was supposed to cross-examine in dr. ford. and that absolved the folks from having to make eye contact with her and actually speak to her. so in some sense, we move backwards. and as you all know, all of the tips that were sent into the fbi went into effectively a garbage chute and nobody followed up on most of what dr. ford and also debbie ramirez, who had allegations that were never tested from yale that was never investigated either. so that line that i wrote was essentially that

testifying, but at one point a republican senator played video of clarence thomas talking about anita hillact that he felt like during his confirmation hearing there was that high-tech lynching, using the famous moment. it does tell you that while justices aren't actually there, republicans wanted their voices to be heard and wanted them to really defend themselves in that interesting way. >> that takes us back, ruth. you and i covered the 1991 hearings of clarence thomas versus anita hill from an all-male judiciary committee. a highly regarded conservative former federal appeals court judge, advised mike pence on his limited role in voting the electoral votes, he was invited to the hearing. he wrote this -- ruth, we focus on clarence thomas because of the revelations that harlan crow, a prominent billionaire republican contributor, friend of clarence thomas, bought his mother's house, renovated it in addition to supporting clarence thomas in around the world trips, without any disclosure on his disclosure forms. >> in a serious world, that story would have prompted two things. it would ha

and the nature of the questions to anita hill were just, you know, kind, crazy, probing in some ways. and, you know, so so there's a lot there was a lot of a circus spectacle to those hearings as clarence thomas said. but everybody had missteps there. but it but joe biden was in the chair. probably did the best he could for that moment. but certainly lots people remember it. and as i said, it did come up in his campaign. and i think that in the you know, he in the end calls, anita hill around the time that running for president. and i think i forget i know you know she had written plenty about how she felt about his stewardship the committee during that. but in the end, i think faced with donald and joe biden, we know where she would have cast her vote. well, i mean, those videos are kind of hard to watch, mean c-span. if those out there listening, everything, you can go look it on c-span. i, you know, a few years ago and i was like, oh, gosh, this is really this is really something. okay, so we have time for one more question and the last question is from one of our viewers. and they

the previous attack was legitimate, the anita hill allegations from 32 years ago.rvant, you can't take free stuff. if you want free stuff, don't be a public servant. people don't want to give you free stuff when you are not a public servant. the problem is not with harlan crow. the problem is with clarence thomas who is taking too much free stuff. appears to have been bought and paid for. even if he hasn't made any decisions that are helpful or beneficial to harlan crow, it creates that appearance. if he were in the executive branch, he would be unable to get a security clearance based on this behavior. it amounts to blackmail, to compromise and to other things that could rightly cause people to question his independence. >> andrew wiseman raised the question of thomas' taxes. did he include the cost of of his mother's home, the tuition for the son he was raising as his own? it was an effort when the supreme court got involved in freeing up donald trump's financial records. this is all knowable. this is all solvable. the most haunting thing senator blumenthal says

the supreme court after senate hearings featuring graphic allegations of sexual harassment from anita hillime in washington and invite them to fly on a private jet to dallas. thomasville's disclose that trip during which he -- and harlan crow reportedly bonded. 2000 and a, thomas began sending his grand nephew to a private boarding school in georgia. records show that he paid his 6000 and $200 a month tuition. propublica reported that he paid the tuition for the grandnephews entire year long stay at that school. guess what? thomas never reports this. 2009. harlan crow reportedly gives $500,000 to a political nonprofit started by ginni thomas. the money is initially given anonymously. politico institute crow in 2011. 2012, conservative activists leonard leo instructs kelly and conaway to -- give ginni thomas another $25,000. he says the paperwork should include no mention of ginni, of course. 2014, thomas selves three pieces of property. he co-owns to crow. including his mother's house. despite the law outlining that such real estate sales must be disclosed. thomas doesn't do so. what my pa

suggested in any way that i had conversations of a sexual nature about pornographic materials with anita hill. that i ever attempted to date her. that i never had any personal, sexual interest in her. or that i in any way ever harassed her. second, and i think the more important point. i think that this today is a travesty. i think it is disgusting. i think this hearing should never occur in america. this is a case in which this dirt was searched for by staffers and members of this committee which is then leapt to the media in this committee and this body validated it and displayed it in prime time to our entire nation. how would any member on this committee, any person in this room or any person in this country would like sleaze set about him or her in this fashion? or this dirt dredged up in this gossip in these lies displayed. how would any person like it? the supreme court is not worth it. no job is worth it. i am not here for that. i am here for my name, my family, my wife and my integrity. i think something is dreadfully wrong with this country when any person in this free country could

determined and has been determined since his really difficult confirmation process against the anita hillxual harassment at work. he has kept a list. he has, some say, engaged reveng in his jurisprudence. others say he is going his own route and he does not care what black people or liberals may think because he is a black man. he should have a certain default position of somebody who was raised the way clarence was raised, he is determined to go another way and not let the fact he is black characterize where he stands on another -- on a number of issues that people might easily characterize him and drop them into a slot. that is not what clarence thomas is like. host: in a moment, we will show you a portion of how the partnership was forged between clarence thomas and his wife, ginny. barbara is in texas on the democrats line. you are on. caller: good morning. have not yet seen the documentary, but i am looking forward to doing so. i understand that harlan crow was an old friend from clarence thomas' youth. he approached him after he was seated on the supreme court. in contrast, a group

determined and has been determined since his really difficult confirmation process against the anita hillxual harassment at work. he has kept a list. he has, some say, engaged reveng in his jurisprudence. others say he is going his own route and he does not care what black people or liberals may think because he is a black man. he should have a certain default position of somebody who was raised the way clarence was raised, he is determined to go another way and not let the fact he is black characterize where he stands on another -- on a number of issues that people might easily characterize him and drop them into a slot. that is not what clarence thomas is like. host: in a moment, we will show you a portion of how the partnership was forged between clarence thomas and his wife, ginny. barbara is in texas on the democrats line. you are on. caller: good morning. have not yet seen the documentary, but i am looking forward to doing so. i understand that harlan crow was an old friend from clarence thomas' youth. he approached him after he was seated on the supreme court. in contrast, a group