charlie: anja manuel is a lecturer at stanford university who previously served in the state departmentrom 2005 to 2007 and was responsible for south asia policy. strategicrtner in a consulting firm. her new book, "the brave new world" addresses the rise of india and china and how the u.s. can bring them together. i am pleased to have her for the first time at this table. welcome. anja: thank you very much, charlie. charlie: all of us know there has been a signal that has happened in the last 20 years, asia, china, india, vietnam, other places. the united states was recently visited by the prime minister of india, mr. modi, and there is an ongoing dialogue with china having to do with the south china sea, with cyberspace, with other issues. how could we bring the three of them together? anja: this is the core question in the book. it's not going to be easy, but china and india will have as dramatic of an impact on the united states as any two other countries on earth, just to give you some examples. by 2030, they will be the world's largest markets for our with 3 billion people between